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question about the bpt

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ok i know (or i think i know) that the "t" in bp-t stands for turbo. ok ? so if that engine comes w/ a turbo you can still do another turbo too? b/c people always seem to be talking about turboing their bpt's but if it comes w/ a turbo why do u need another one? or are they just replacing the turbo that was already on it? WOW im confused (cant ya tell?)

and yes...i am new

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P.S. if any one has a bp-t for sale i want/need it.
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yes the T stands for turbo...when people are talking about turboing their motors they are probably talking about turboing a BP (a BPT without a turbo) which are available domestically in 91-95 escort GTs and 90-94 protege LXs. pretty much the exact same motor, i think the BPT has beefier internals and bigger injectors. do a lot of research on this forum before deciding if you should do a BPT swap.
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a bpt motor is an awesome setup in an mx3, but far from just needing the motor. be prepared to spend some money on it.
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jd9483 wrote:ok i know (or i think i know) that the "t" in bp-t stands for turbo. ok ? so if that engine comes w/ a turbo you can still do another turbo too? b/c people always seem to be talking about turboing their bpt's but if it comes w/ a turbo why do u need another one? or are they just replacing the turbo that was already on it? WOW im confused (cant ya tell?)

and yes...i am new

thanks

P.S. if any one has a bp-t for sale i want/need it.
Yeah as stated above do lots of research before attemping such a engine swap, and once you have compeleted it. Start over and do it all again.

A good deal of people replace the turbo that a BPT comes with to allow them to run a higher level of boost Effiecnently without destorying the turbo.

There are vendors who sell BPT's Not sure who is the best i have not been around for a bit.
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thanks so far guys, but i also need to know, is it cheapper to get the BP and turbo it, Or just get the bpt? and I'm not going to do the swap, Im getting a shop to do it. And could you guys give me an average price for a lightly used BPT and BP? I know i've seen em around from 550-1000 so i dont know what is a good price.


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Thers a BP motor on Ebay right now i plan on buying, from a 91-94 protege, im doin the same thing this dudes doin i guess, im deciding wich is harder to set up... Buy and install a turbo on it or Hook up NOS to it??
I dont think the swap is that difficult, but i hear a turbo can be pretty expensive to hook up
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jd9483 wrote:thanks so far guys, but i also need to know, is it cheapper to get the BP and turbo it, Or just get the bpt? and I'm not going to do the swap, Im getting a shop to do it. And could you guys give me an average price for a lightly used BPT and BP? I know i've seen em around from 550-1000 so i dont know what is a good price.


thanks
This really depends on what type of results and powerband you are looking for. The BPT is eaiser in the sense that you get the turbo, and the manifolds that are intended for forced induction. The head on the N/A BP has much better flow characteristics and will net more power(Not to be downing a BPT head, the head has a killer low end).

Cheaper will depend greatly on you and what resources you can bring to your disposal.

Prices I cant tell you. I bought my BP 2 years ago, I got a whole front end clip of a car for 700ish.
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krishna wrote:Thers a BP motor on Ebay right now i plan on buying, from a 91-94 protege, im doin the same thing this dudes doin i guess, im deciding wich is harder to set up... Buy and install a turbo on it or Hook up NOS to it??
I dont think the swap is that difficult, but i hear a turbo can be pretty expensive to hook up
Ack forgot to answer your quesion in my earlier post. Owell..


Keep in mind you are not just buying a motor. You also need to obtain the ECU and wiring harness(to make things easier). There is also a diffrence between the ECU/wiring harnesses between a 93 and a 94, so be sure you get the specifics from the seller.

Nitrous is quite frankly simple. Even when doing a "complex" wet setup its much more simplistic than a turbo setup. Just i Advise you not to use a dry system. Wet ones cost more but are worth it when your not blowing your motor.
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Nitrous is quite frankly simple. Even when doing a "complex" wet setup its much more simplistic than a turbo setup. Just i Advise you not to use a dry system. Wet ones cost more but are worth it when your not blowing your motor.
I think i want to get the Nitros way... Anyone got any good links for a NOS set up on a BP? Hooking up a turbo sounds fun.. but too pricy and too much time to put into it for only 2 second gain... if that, and thats after spending 2k...
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krishna wrote:
Nitrous is quite frankly simple. Even when doing a "complex" wet setup its much more simplistic than a turbo setup. Just i Advise you not to use a dry system. Wet ones cost more but are worth it when your not blowing your motor.
I think i want to get the Nitros way... Anyone got any good links for a NOS set up on a BP? Hooking up a turbo sounds fun.. but too pricy and too much time to put into it for only 2 second gain... if that, and thats after spending 2k...
Going from a stock car with a tierd motor that runs in the 18s to something that runs in the 14s is a bit more than 2 seconds :). Biggest thing being is the power is on tap and doesnt have to be refilled and is worhwihle for long highway strechs, and track use.

For cheap straight line thrills Nitrous is the way to go. I have not really looked into other peoples setups or what systems people prefer. Although the install is a fairly generic ordeal.
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