What kinda HID kit shall i buy.

[mx3frik]

So you know I didn't post that to upheld grudges, just letting out my pennies worth.

When I said ricey I didn't mean you in particular but just attutide toward lighting in general. It's nice to see you doing something about the weird beam pattern.

What I really meant to say was that even if you're on post secondary studies you could slowly save up and when a good deal on projectors come along you might be happier with the results with projectors. Unless we're in Germany universities/colleges aren't cheap and I understand that. Seeing you getting the ballasts and bulbs would indicate you want better lighting anyways...

If I remembered right both Aiden and JDM have projectors in their housings...

Either way it's something to consider...

No hard feelings in my previous post at all, hope nothing offended you.

Eugene

[The_Great_Tonge]

ooooo none taken. you and jdm come across straight with you advice and sugestions unlike other people who try to talk down to others. man by the time im done saving to have enough money to get the materials needs to build projectors il prob wont have the mx anymore. it all depends on the money. i appreciate your opinions, but they are just that, YOUR opinions. People like Aiden dont undersand that and will loose sleep if i talk about my HID's to anyone on the ubb.

[millionflame]

Originally posted by The_Great_Tonge:
Ok here we go...

Aiden: STFU you idiiot. wow your suffering from some serious hate. wow not only are you trying to bash me, but i think it goes like this " The problem is, in North America 99% of people driving on the road are ignorant to aiming their headlights properly." And yes if you have ever met a car with a proper HID setup on a dark road you will squint. Bright light + dark = squinting if your in the way...

JDM: Yes they are Osrams bulbs

Eugene H.: I dont know about you but school isnt cheap here states side. What ive done with aimed the lights down to the firthest point and added washers to hold down the lense. its better from what it is was before but it still has a funky looking beam pattern. Ive had them for awhile so i dont think it would fall under that ricey area, espically since my bulbs dont produce purple or a navy blue type of light.

Oh ya for Aiden " Next time someone's brakes fail because they didn't fix them properly and hit your car, causing you to be hurt and go to the hospital, just remember that it's perfectly fine - FROM WHAT YOU SAY. "

that is one of the worse examples you could give, two subjects that are on the completely different from one another. for someone who is anal about lighting such as you it might be, but a normal person it isnt. the fact of the matter is i doubt you or JDM have seen an mx3 with HID's, you have both stated youve seen HID in a 9004 hosuing, but not a mx3...just because you have seen one, doesnt mean youve seen them all.

You just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself, don't you?

First of all, you're a complete MORON.

Everything I said was RIGHT, so just because I proved you wrong, you don't need to go off and start crying about it. Geez, did you ever graduate from grade 5?

So, here it goes AGAIN.

ANY OEM HID equipped vehicle with properly aimed headlights will NOT, I repeat, WILL NOT blind you or make you squint. That's the whole reason they have a shield - to block light from going into people's eyes! They designed them for that specific reason.

If you stare RIGHT AT the light, and the lights aren't aimed properly anways, then OF COURSE they're going to blind you.

Use some common sense for christ's sake!

And my brake analogy was bang on too.

Just because you're iggnorant enough to think that a light is a light, and no matter if it's illegal it doesn't matter, doesn't mean I was wrong.

HID kits like the one you have, and the others you mentioned, are illegal because they BLIND other drivers. They CAN cause an accident because of this blinding light, and furthermore, they just generally cause discomfort to other drivers when looking at them.

Aiming them down, like you said you did, helps, but it does not ELIMINATE the problem completely. Go look at your lights from the front. If you're not blinded, then you should get your eyes checked - seriously.

As far as seeing HID in a 9004 housing, yes I have seen it - Taras can speak for himself. Also, yes, once you've seen one, you've seen the all.

You have to understand that the MX-3 is about 12 years old now. That's VERY VERY old in terms of lighting technology. Back then, our lights were kick *** , gung ** , awesome, but now they're the worst you can possibly get.

HIDs in a 9004 housing, specifically the MX-3, is a very bad idea for all the right reasons. The lense has those "lines or ridges" on it for a reason, to scatter the halogen light to the right spots on the road. Think what this does with HID? Right into peoples eyes.

[millionflame]

Originally posted by The_Great_Tonge:
ooooo none taken. you and jdm come across straight with you advice and sugestions unlike other people who try to talk down to others. man by the time im done saving to have enough money to get the materials needs to build projectors il prob wont have the mx anymore. it all depends on the money. i appreciate your opinions, but they are just that, YOUR opinions. People like Aiden dont undersand that and will loose sleep if i talk about my HID's to anyone on the ubb.

I paid $350 (USD) for my projectors, ballasts, bulbs, and harness. That's CHEAP. I don't see where the problem is here in getting them.

That's cheaper than almost every HID "kit" out there. Short of re-bassing the D2S bulbs yourself, you probably wont find a better deal than that.

Trust me on this one though, I don't lose sleep over you at all. In fact, I just laugh at how dumb you are and wonder if you know how to wipe your own *** . If would be amazing if you knew how since you seem to display a complete lack of common sense or general knowledge when it comes to HIDs.

If you stop being so ignorant and take in what Taras and I are trying to tell you, you'll see that we're right and in the long run you'd be better off too.

You can talk all you want to people about your HIDs on this UBB. I can't stop you, nor would I. It gives me a perfect opportunity to prove you wrong and show people both sides, more importantly the right one so they don't make the mistake you did.

[The_Great_Tonge]

i think im speaking for the majority of the people on this board when i stfu. just like protegeSTS, you might be informed about lighing but ur a @ss about it. you could go suck on a rock for all i care. kuruption1983 was asking advice, and i gave it. like ive said many times, my opinion!! ya you might have spend 350 on your lighting stuff, so i wonder how much you paid for your neon green racing strips and interior <img src="http://www.florida3si.com/vBulletin/smilies/rice.gif" alt=" - " />

you can say whatever you want after this, cause your beating a dead horse. i have HID's and i love them, you have some ghey looking setup that looks like *** but you continue to bash what i have. oo ya i always though it was the 5th grade <img src="http://www.florida3si.com/vBulletin/smilies/screwy.gif" alt=" - " />

[DJPRO]

<img src="http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/kissass.gif" alt=" - " />
A satisfied HID MX'er.

later,
dee <img src="http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/ideas.gif" alt=" - " />

[Taras]

Boys and girls:

I think this thread should be shut down. It does contain some useful info and various opinions on the subject though. No right, no wrong. But all the bashing and trying to put each other down and getting personal is simply unacceptable.

Any further bashing shall be edited for content or your whole post will be deleted. Sorry.

Lets all have healthy discussions. Please.

[The_Great_Tonge]

JDM personally i see the problem ......

Sorry content deleted. Out of place and directed personally. Send me an email next time. (JDM)

<small>[ November 27, 2003, 03:35 AM: Message edited by: JDM ]</small>

[Taras]

Great Tongue, comments noted.
I am not going to point fingers, but I am not ignorant either. I just do not want to get personal.

I understand that people taunt each other with various comments and personal remarks. That does not help for the thread to stay on topics. No bashing, no accusations, no personal remarks, no blaming each other. Common sense must prevail.

It is ambsolute waste of space, bandwidth, and time (both the author and the audience). Wanna get personal take it off line.

Most of us here are enthusiasts and constantly learning. Sometimes we feel strongly about something in particular. That does not make it an absolute right opinion. We can share and try to see each other's point of view.

I hope that this is the last time I have to discuss these issues.

[marshmallow15]

Originally posted by DJPRO:
<img src="http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/kissass.gif" alt=" - " />
A satisfied HID MX'er.

later,
dee <img src="http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/ideas.gif" alt=" - " />

ditto here. me and my friends and family are in convoys a lot and i never get any complaints. ive spent an hour adjusting my lights and adding shims and driving/stopping/adjusting/driving again.

[millionflame]

Originally posted by The_Great_Tonge:
i think im speaking for the majority of the people on this board when i stfu. just like protegeSTS, you might be informed about lighing but ur a @ss about it. you could go suck on a rock for all i care. kuruption1983 was asking advice, and i gave it. like ive said many times, my opinion!! ya you might have spend 350 on your lighting stuff, so i wonder how much you paid for your neon green racing strips and interior <img src="http://www.florida3si.com/vBulletin/smilies/rice.gif" alt=" - " />

you can say whatever you want after this, cause your beating a dead horse. i have HID's and i love them, you have some ghey looking setup that looks like *** but you continue to bash what i have. oo ya i always though it was the 5th grade <img src="http://www.florida3si.com/vBulletin/smilies/screwy.gif" alt=" - " />

What neon green racing stripes?

And, what is so ****ty about my projector set-up??

[millionflame]

Originally posted by The_Great_Tonge:
JDM personally i see the problem being....

Content edited....

I NEVER edit my posts to cover up anything I say. I have nothing to hide, but all I'm saying is the TRUTH!

As far as "[getting] away bashing north americans" is concerned, if you haven't noticed I AM North American, and I live in North America and my point about them being ignorant to not having properly aimed headlights was that in Europe it's MANDATORY to have peoperly aimed headlights or your car will not be put on the road after inspection, and in NA we do not have this so people get away with it - ie...lifted trucks, people with HID kits, etc, etc.

If you read my ORIGINAL post at the top, you'll see I never bashed anyone. I told the truth about HIDs.

<small>[ November 27, 2003, 03:38 AM: Message edited by: JDM ]</small>

[curtklze]

Originally posted by Aiden:

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I paid $350 (USD) for my projectors, ballasts, bulbs, and harness. That's CHEAP. I don't see where the problem is here in getting them.

That's cheaper than almost every HID "kit" out there. Short of re-bassing the D2S bulbs yourself, you probably wont find a better deal than that.
.[/QB]

Where did you get them from at that price?

So that way people can do this conversion the proper way insted of putting the xenon bulbs in the MX-3 stock housing.

[millionflame]

Originally posted by curtklze:

Originally posted by Aiden:

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I paid $350 (USD) for my projectors, ballasts, bulbs, and harness. That's CHEAP. I don't see where the problem is here in getting them.

That's cheaper than almost every HID "kit" out there. Short of re-bassing the D2S bulbs yourself, you probably wont find a better deal than that.
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Where did you get them from at that price?

So that way people can do this conversion the proper way insted of putting the xenon bulbs in the MX-3 stock housing.[/QB]

I got them from a fellow named Andy Tsao. He lives somewhere in New York.

He has lots of different generations of projectors, as well as parts, so there's lots of stuff to chose from with him.

He's a good seller, and I never had one problem with him. I just know him from one of the lighting forums, not friends with the guy whatsoever.

His email is [email]andivic@hotmail.com" target="_blank[/email].

[Taras]

Originally posted by The_Great_Tonge:
Ok here we go...
...i doubt you or JDM have seen an mx3 with HID's, you have both stated youve seen HID in a 9004 hosuing, but not a mx3...just because you have seen one, doesnt mean youve seen them all.

Just for the record. My friend in Vancouver was one of the first to get a 9004 HID kit for his Mx3. He was lucky to get actual Philips capsules rebased to 9004, so he did not have any failures yet.

That is why I became ineterested in HID conversion.