Turbocharger

[Redlined]

I have a 1994 MX-3, four cylinder DOHC 1.6L and I am looking for a turbo. Where the hell do I get one and how much am I looking at spending?

[curtklze]

a basic turbo set up will cost around $15,000 USD , the ONLY place you can get them from is Japan.

[mx3TT]

or just look at the junkyard turbo in the FAQ section.

[Josh]

i just turbo charged my car, you want to look for a turbo from an AWD 323, from like 87 to 90 i think mines from an 89. the manafold will swap rite over. You will need a LOT of things. iv spent probably around 700USD in the past 2 months and i got my turbo dirt cheep, 150 bucks. it looks and feels almost bran new. the best thing is to search the board to find everything you will need. good luck:)

[jap-spec]

How did you only spend $700 dollars. Thats really cheap. Can you write a list of all the part you use for your turbo setup?

[VizualXTC]

Originally posted by jap-spec:
How did you only spend $700 dollars. Thats really cheap. Can you write a list of all the part you use for your turbo setup?

Turbo setups are NOT expensive until you get into the electronics. Most street tubo setups don't need some of the electronics that people put in their cars. I know of a 10 second Civic hatch that is running a F20 engine with a stock ignition. A Manual boost controller will work fine. Also, if you tune it corrently, a SAFC is not required. People will spend $1000's on a turbo setup when most of the **** is not nessisary. Somewhere I posted a custom turbo setup for the K8 with a T3 turbo for right around $600. Realize that stock turbo cars do not have SAFC's, MSD Ignitions, Boost Gauges, Tial 35mm Wategates, Blitz BOV's, 2.5" mandrel bent stainless steel 8 gauge piping, etc. There is a difference between 'turbocharging' and 'performance turbocharging' If you just want a little more power out of your ride, there's no reason to pump $2000 into ish you don't need to maintain the turbo and engine.

[maldo]

That is the biggest line of BS I have ever heard.

[Josh]

yah its easy. just throw everything on and see what happens. ping --------- ping then BOOM there goes a rod threw the hood.

you have to spend the money. i still dont have an intercooler or a blow off valve, or any guadges. i know i really need at least the bov and definatly need an A/F guadge. everything is expensive!, its just how much are you willing to spend and how much you can afford. you can go cheep and get all used stuff from friends or a wrecking yard, or you can go all out and spend thousands. and to get your car tuned just properly you need to go with some sort of aftermarket computer such as the SAFC.

all i bought for my set up is.
Turbo and manafold from a 323 - 275$ from wrecking yard
Boost sensitive fuel pres reg. - 60$
RX7 fuel pump - 120$
oil and water hoses - 60$ i bought stainless lines
custome intake piping and vac hose - 40$
bigger injectors - 110 wrecking yard
i also did alot custom work, and made all my own piping it looks good enough for now. and i still have about 500 to 700 more to spend to get it just running the way i want it to. then i went a blew my tranny.

[VizualXTC]

Originally posted by Josh:
i know i really need at least the bov and definatly need an A/F guadge. everything is expensive!

Actually most people will tell you that the A/F gauges are rarely accurate enough to tun a car by. Basically they just tell you that you're running rich or lean. An EGT gauge is a much more accurate gauge and will provide you with the same information.

BOV's are not needed. Highly reccomended, but not needed.

I think it's hillarious when people try to get others to spend thousands on their turbo setup, just because they did. LMFAO. A descent around-town turbo system is NOT expensive. But go ahead and spend the money. I think $2K to get an extra 20-30HP is assinign when you can spend less than half that and get the same results, and the same reliability. You just don't have the bragging rights of saying, "I spent over $2000 on my turbo setup alone." But I will sit and laugh and say, "I got a comparable setup for half that you moron."

Take it easy kids

[ltjrunner]

15,000 dollars for a turbo set up...

to set up a turbo thats so not true...take out the **** in your pants and sit down for a lesson.

basic turbo set up-
basic mid grade custom exhaust manifold-250-500
turbo-good deals can be found so lets say average off ebay 350
fpr-220(vortech sfmu)
fuel pump-120(walbro 255lph)
egt guage,a/f guage, boost gauge...200
pods-60
misc...250(lines, connections, pipeing)
below 5psi..intercooler and bov isnt needed...above 5psi it is recomended.
so intercooler and bov...sidemountintercooler 250 bov-200 roughly.
and if you want...injectors.

so a rough estimate of 1600 bucks(rounding and just guestimations...i know my buddy/teamate spent roughly on his turboed avenger...so there you have it...a turboe set up is roughly 1600 bucks to do on your own for your basic...7-10psi turbo(10 is pushin it though for w/out injectors)

if it was a mis type i apologize for being a ****. but i see these people saying to turbo a car its so expensive...and it soo cheap. its neither.. and non tunned simple turbo set-up is a good chunk of change but not too much.

and, if you only get 20-30 hp outta a 2000 turbo set up that means ur dont know what u are doing or are running 2-3 psi...running 7psi took a 17 second avenger to high 14's...not a 20-30hp gain...try 70-80(dont know cuz its never been dynoed and never will be for it is trying to be sold for a stealth tt)

now, when you do engine work(pistons, rods, heads), stand alone and other electronics, tunning, and obtaining high hp and then breaking things as your gonna do etc etc you can reach 15000 dollars as im in the ever so slow process of doing....good luck to all. again, if it was a mis-type i apologize for being a ****.

<small>[ October 28, 2003, 12:37 AM: Message edited by: ltjrunner ]</small>

[VizualXTC]

Ok, let's break this down a little bit better ltjrunner.

basic turbo set up-
basic mid grade custom exhaust manifold-250-500

You can get them much cheaper off cars that share the same engine block yet come with a turbo (for 4 cyl)
A K8 stock exhaust manifold will flow enough for a T3 turbo. and since you don't bolt the turbo to the manifolds, you just run pipe from the manifolds to a collector.

turbo-good deals can be found so lets say average off ebay 350

You can get a used turbo from a jumkyard for MUCH less than $350. I can personally get turbo's for $50 a pop.

fpr-220(vortech sfmu)

Vortech 12:1 FMU NEW That one (as I speak) has 3 hours left and is at $76. Not quite $220

fuel pump-120(walbro 255lph)

Buy It Now $84.95 on Ebay

egt guage,a/f guage, boost gauge...200

Again, the A/F gauge is NOT a requirement, especially if you have an EGT.

pods-60

$39.99 off www.Gaugepods.com

misc...250(lines, connections, pipeing)

Could be accurate, yet on the high side.

below 5psi..intercooler and bov isnt needed...above 5psi it is recomended.
so intercooler and bov...sidemountintercooler 250 bov-200 roughly.

Eclipse Intercooler and TurboXS BOV for $140 on Ebay

and if you want...injectors.

so a rough estimate of 1600 bucks(rounding and just guestimations...i know my buddy/teamate spent roughly on his turboed avenger...so there you have it...a turboe set up is roughly 1600 bucks to do on your own for your basic...7-10psi turbo(10 is pushin it though for w/out injectors)

With the numbers I gave I added it up to about $841. Not quite $1600. And as I said, the I/C and the BOV are not required, only recomended.

and, if you only get 20-30 hp outta a 2000 turbo set up that means ur dont know what u are doing or are running 2-3 psi...running 7psi took a 17 second avenger to high 14's...not a 20-30hp gain...try 70-80(dont know cuz its never been dynoed and never will be for it is trying to be sold for a stealth tt)

Take a look at those bolt on turbo kits for the Acura Integra, and the Honda Civic SI. They run about $2000-$3000 and claim 20-30hp gains. For under $1000 I can turbocharge my car running more than 10psi if I so choose.

now, when you do engine work(pistons, rods, heads), stand alone and other electronics, tunning, and obtaining high hp and then breaking things as your gonna do etc etc you can reach 15000 dollars as im in the ever so slow process of doing....good luck to all. again, if it was a mis-type i apologize for being a ****.

If you spend $15K on a turbo and engine, you better be hitting at least 10's. Turbo setups are NOT as expensive as everyone thinks. If you have a shop build your custom turbo setup, then you will be into the $2K range. For $2K I would have a KICK *** turbo setup that would be tuned and VERY reliable. Running more than 7psi of course. Like I said, if you want an around-town car that's a little quicker, then you can get by with as little as $600. If you want a drag monster, you will be pushing into the upper dollar figures. It's all where you look and how much you know. An MSD ignition is NOT required on a street turbo car, neither is an extra set of injectors.

<small>[ October 29, 2003, 08:48 PM: Message edited by: VizualXTC ]</small>

[Josh]

it takes way less than everyone told me. iv only spent around 600 to 700 USD. with the 2 1/4" exaust. and i have everything that i absolutly need other than a A/F controler, and thats just to fine tune everything. 15,000 thats an insane amount, i hope he is just miss typing that and meant 1,500. i dont know im turning some awsome power from the turbo if i blew a perfectly good auto in two blocks. now im just finnishing up the manual swap (what a B****) and another 1000 later.

[OsoSlo z28]

this is entertaining

<small>[ October 30, 2003, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: cre8v mx3 ]</small>

[ltjrunner]

the 1600 came from the turbo set up on a friend avenger...

- Polished T3 Turbocharger
- Vortech Super Fuel Management Unit
- Walbro 255lph fuel pump
- HKS SSQV (Super sequential blow-off valve)
- HKS Turbo Timer Type-0
- Missing Link 003
- Autometer EGT Probe Kit
- Autometer Cobalt series A/F Gauge
- Autometer Fuel pressure gauge (under hood)
- Side-mount intercooler
- Lots of other crap

notice the turbo timer which is a must when turboing. who really wants to let there egt drop to a good level b4 shutting of the car. ive scene way too many people turbo cars then, shut the off after beating the pissoutta it.

so, if you wanna go ebay, go for it. it is a great way to obtain ur ****, but ive been ****ed by ebay b4 so, im hesitant on using it, and all the prices i gave were as if you are buying brand new minus the turbo, never heard of any problems with turbos off ebay.

<small>[ October 31, 2003, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: ltjrunner ]</small>

[Marlon]

Originally posted by ltjrunner:
the 1600 came from the turbo set up on a friend avenger...

- Polished T3 Turbocharger
- Vortech Super Fuel Management Unit
- Walbro 255lph fuel pump
- HKS SSQV (Super sequential blow-off valve)
- HKS Turbo Timer Type-0
- Missing Link 003
- Autometer EGT Probe Kit
- Autometer Cobalt series A/F Gauge
- Autometer Fuel pressure gauge (under hood)
- Side-mount intercooler
- Lots of other crap

notice the turbo timer which is a must when turboing. who really wants to let there egt drop to a good level b4 shutting of the car. ive scene way too many people turbo cars then, shut the off after beating the pissoutta it.

so, if you wanna go ebay, go for it. it is a great way to obtain ur ****, but ive been ****ed by ebay b4 so, im hesitant on using it, and all the prices i gave were as if you are buying brand new minus the turbo, never heard of any problems with turbos off ebay.

u don't need a turbo timer if your turbo is watercooled