New Different information about the Kfze

[Mnemonic]

As me and barry have noticed thinking we have the same engine but dont, there are 2 versions of the Kfze, one was used in the Mazda Lantis, the other in the Mazda Mx-6.

The difference? Well not really alot but some, according to an Australian mazda dealership about 5 hp, explanation, where the Mazda lantis used slightly modified k8101 heads, the Mx-6 used even more modified heads and were stamped K82, also there are like the klzes 2 styles of Intake manifolds, 1 being the curved neck found in the Mazda Lantis, and the other the straight neck, found in the Mazda Mx-6

Now which one has the greatest Hp, where corksport has posted the Kfze having 165hp, they get there engines from the Mazda Lantis, where as the Mx-6 version has 170hp based on what i was told by the parts clerk, and he even said it had a few more ponies than the other.

So there you have it, and this is probably true among the Klze's im sure it is where as the engine was used in both sedans and sports.

<small>[ November 27, 2003, 02:02 PM: Message edited by: Mnemonic ]</small>

[papa roached]

so we might have a KF-DE and KF-ZE?

[lazzyie]

No they would both be kf-ze's, de means that it was used in the north american market. Good stuff on the kf motors someone should compile all this info lately and throw it in the v6 faq

[Mnemonic]

the only way i could describe the difference is by the head markings, My version has the K82 stamp, which is found in the mx-6 version of the 2.0 Kfze, where as the Lantis is stamped on the head K801 so i guess if you were to have to seperate them it would be either as
2.0 Kfze k8101
2.0 Kfze k82
or
2.0 kfze (L)
2.0 kfze (m)

<small>[ November 27, 2003, 02:02 PM: Message edited by: Mnemonic ]</small>

[2RotorsNaDream]

You guys could've saved all these problems by just getting a DE. Same HP, more displacement, and better compression for turbo. And parts are easy as hell to find.

[Manach]

Originally posted by Mnemonic:
the only way i could describe the difference is by the head markings, My version has the K82 stamp, which is found in the mx-6 version of the 2.0 Kfze, where as the Lantis is stamped on the head K801 so i guess if you were to have to seperate them it would be either as
2.0 Kfze k801
2.0 Kfze k82
or
2.0 kfze (L)
2.0 kfze (m)

On the head, or in the head?

I just swap an engine that the seller told me it was a KF-ZE engine.

Outside of the head, it is stamped K8101..

Is that ok??

[Mnemonic]

that means you have the engine from teh lantis 165hp

Yea it may save us trouble, but its a nicer thing to say you have a kfze, with these engines you litterally have to work, you cant just go to mazda and get parts, for example, i was originally getting head gaskets through corksport, but now that they failed to find them, i called a dealership in australia and they are shipping me a set, its just more work and you have a different engine

<small>[ November 27, 2003, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: Mnemonic ]</small>

[mx3TT]

Its a little thing called originality.

[UrBaNsTyLe55]

whats good about this engine is by having one your different from the rest, and not like everyone else

[Gro Harlem]

Clarification:

The "DE" in the engine names doesn't mean its from North America. It means "Dohc Efi". The ZE means its a performance version w/high comp pistons, agressive cams and freer flowing ports.

It isn't surprising how there are two versions of the KF-ZE. The MX6 is a heavier car, maybe mazda saw the need to up the power, or maybe there were other reasons.

[Custommx3]

There are more than two versions. There are curved neck versions as well.

[Manach]

Originally posted by Gro Harlem:
Clarification:

The "DE" in the engine names doesn't mean its from North America. It means "Dohc Efi". The ZE means its a performance version w/high comp pistons, agressive cams and freer flowing ports.

It isn't surprising how there are two versions of the KF-ZE. The MX6 is a heavier car, maybe mazda saw the need to up the power, or maybe there were other reasons.

You said the Straight neck is from a Mx-6, I got that..

You told also, as my head is stamp K8-101 on the block, it is from the Lantis..

Now, what do I beleive?

I got a mix car?

[Mnemonic]

you guys also have to take into consideration the years, different years had different engines as well, maybe one year decided to go with a curve neck or straight, Im just informing on what information i have herd from talking to derrick @ corksport and the australian dealership

[lazzyie]

Not meaning to thread jack but check your pms if you still need a kf ecu.

[Aston Wards]

626's, MS6's, and Eunos 500's came with straight necks, i've only seen Lantis's and MS8's with the curved neck my guess, is they bumped the power up for the sportier MX6, although i've also heard the type-R lantis put out 170HP