horsepower with addons

[tcsnipe]

Im planning on buying<p>full exhaust
prm intake
unorthodox pulleys
65 mm throttle body<p>How much of a horsepower gain can I expect?
How much is the stock h/p and torgue?
And is there anything else I can do to the 1.8 for h/p besides turbos/supers/nos?

[Custommx3]

You should really read alot more of this website. that info is all over the place <p>The only way to tell your gains is on a dyno. Diff brands produce different results. <p>Alot of people think that if you do alot of stuff you get gains per item, but if you add more items, you dont get a great of gain as you may think. You may get the PRM and get 2-3 HP, add the TB, and maybe get a total of 7 together.
Just because they claim 5 HP gains on a product doesnt mean you 'll get 5 hp. Maybe if that was your only mod then yes. Parts work together, so HP adds up.<p>[ March 18, 2003: Message edited by: Custommx3 ]</p>

[Hy300]

Full exhaust piping is nothing without headers, look around for headers for the 2.5L Probe and MX-6. The engines are the same. Anything that'll work for them will work for you too

[sheller]

Well, I don't have experience with all of those items but do have the underdrive pulley and now the prm intake. I put the pulley on when I switched engines (K8 to K8). When I got the car back it did seem to rev a bit quicker and just seemed a bit swifter. That was a few months ago. I just installed the prm this last Sunday. Again, it seems a little swifter and stronger. The exhaust note when I'm rev'ing the engine is a little bit louder too but not "loud" per say. I don't have any set hp numbers to give because as Barry said, the only way to get those specifically is by putting it on a dyno or something. I just that there is a difference but not enough that it feels like a different car. Hope this helps.
Steve

[David Coleman]

I'd say ~10whp for all that.

[PaImportTuner]

so your saying. probe/mx6 v6 headers worok with the v6 mx-3 motor?? is it a direct bolt on what do you have to do?

[Sonicxtacy02]

They will bolt to the block but you'll have to fabricate them to fit under the car. No sustantial gains have been found when upgrading the headers

[ProtegeSTS]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hy300:
Full exhaust piping is nothing without headers, look around for headers for the 2.5L Probe and MX-6. The engines are the same. Anything that'll work for them will work for you too<hr></blockquote><p>Of course, they are sized for a 2.5L, not a 1.8L

[ProtegeSTS]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02:
They will bolt to the block but you'll have to fabricate them to fit under the car. No sustantial gains have been found when upgrading the headers<hr></blockquote><p>That's only because nobody has designed a GOOD header for the car. there's more to it than throwing a few pipes together on a flange.

[Sonicxtacy02]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS:
<p>That's only because nobody has designed a GOOD header for the car. there's more to it than throwing a few pipes together on a flange.<hr></blockquote><p>I was under the impression that vaughn put together a tuned set of equal-length headers for the v6 (dont remember if it was for the 1.8 or 2.5) that only put out 2-3whp. He is the only person to this point that i know of that has gone that far... so i'm basing my statement on that. Myself and some others on this board have attempted to convert 2.5L headers into the mx-3 bay and i havent heard of any success, most likely because of what you mentioned. I actually lost hp with the pacesetter headers... not to mention that their low quality caused them to leak during the 6 months i had them on the car.

[ProtegeSTS]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02:
<p>I was under the impression that vaughn put together a tuned set of equal-length headers for the v6 (dont remember if it was for the 1.8 or 2.5) that only put out 2-3whp. He is the only person to this point that i know of that has gone that far... so i'm basing my statement on that. Myself and some others on this board have attempted to convert 2.5L headers into the mx-3 bay and i havent heard of any success, most likely because of what you mentioned. I actually lost hp with the pacesetter headers... not to mention that their low quality caused them to leak during the 6 months i had them on the car. <hr></blockquote><p>
As I recall, Vaughn's headers actually had good results. I don't recall the numbers, but I did correspond with him during my research about 18 months ago about them, and I remember him being quite happy with them. I believe he got them from a company out of South Africa, IIRC.<p>Again, there IS power to be had, but not with the available parts off the shelf right now.

[therealstasman]

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[ProtegeSTS]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Stas:
so what do you guys think about hotshot headers for pgt. besides being a bit longer, because i have stock pgt headers and downpipe with a flexible piece, the piece is busted, so i don't know whether i should just get a used stock downpipe or something aftermarket. any suggestions?<hr></blockquote><p>
Its designed for a 2.5L. Its not at all tuned for your car.

[mitmaks]

theres set of headers for my s-10 and headers DO add hp and tq levels, i have mini truckin magazine issue and theres headers added 12+hp and 10+tq at wheels on dyno, if u get exhaust system would add 15+ hp and about same tq on K08.

[David Coleman]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mitmaks:
theres set of headers for my s-10 and headers DO add hp and tq levels, i have mini truckin magazine issue and theres headers added 12+hp and 10+tq at wheels on dyno, if u get exhaust system would add 15+ hp and about same tq on K08.<hr></blockquote><p>
The above post is not based on sound logic at all. Speculation and guesswork don't define reality. Physics and math are part of something called "science" that is part of a set of rules our world exists by. Read up on it sometime...