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call around for places that can do lowered cars...

that won't tell you anything. We know that they aren't the same exact thing. Hell, there are 3 or 4 different sets of 2nd gen Probe springs anyway. Just like the MX-3.

Originally posted by Samm: Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: Originally posted by Samm: i got'em i like them there a lil bumpy but so are all coilovers ...here they are with customized struts i think its clost to 4" drop with 17's you have no idea what your suspension is like. "customized&...

coilover sleeves: Ground Control, stuff for the MX-3. Must be paired with your choice of strut.

coilover "system": everything combined, little room to customize, usually not rebuildable/revalveable. usually more expensive, but idiot proof for people who don't care.

Originally posted by Samm: i got'em i like them there a lil bumpy but so are all coilovers ...here they are with customized struts i think its clost to 4" drop with 17's you have no idea what your suspension is like. "customized" struts, for the rest of you, is when you cut off the s...

Originally posted by Sam Baker: and guys.. u dont have to be mad or pissed off about me saying that these struts are weak.. because thats just how i feel! i had a bad experience.. I get upset when people with absolutely no idea how something works decides to post to the world how horrible something...

you'll have to show it to a local shop and see what they say.

Originally posted by Sam Baker: ok forget what i've said.. i dont care LOL.. (but yes those are oil struts - oil and air.. instead of gas.. and they are soooo lame because the valving is screwy but i dont even care) because i'm not able to "comprehend" how "good" these things ar...

Originally posted by Sam Baker: o... and about the "SPEED of compression and rebound".. it was soooo easy to push the piston down, and i found a *little* force when it was coming back up.. but doesnt that mean if i hit a huge bump in the road, my car will slam down, and then take longer t...

Originally posted by Sam Baker: hey not to say that you guyz who have zx2's have bad setups at ALL! i mean.. stiff springs and soft struts are a nice combo, since you wont bottom out and it still keeps the stiff cornering ability. but thats all springs (especially if you have zx2s).. ALSO!! ZX2 str...

Originally posted by nope-mx3:
ProtegeSTS:
Do you know what the springrate is on the H&R`s?

you said 350/250 on ground controls, would that be a lot stiffer than the H&R`s?

Noticeable difference so to speak.

nope-mx3

IIRC, H&R are 180/130 or thereabouts.

reasons why other options aren't as good as the GC coilovers and konis...for a budget racer. (NOTE: budget when talking about GOOD performance is more expensive than the majority of people on this site want to spend) 1) NOBODY makes a regular spring that's linear. 2) NOBODY makes a regular spring th...

Originally posted by playaa: Well thanks for the suggestions but im not lookin to AutoX... my car is for shows and daily driving... But I wanted 18"s for the show look and just wanting the best ride quality i can get out of em... use your stock wheels daily and put on 18s for shows. that'll do...

both...they are tokico blues, and then their springs.