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Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 4:26 pm
by WhiteFinish
When bleeding the brakes, you don't need to have a clutch cilinder hooked up, right ?

I'm asking because it uses thesame master brake cilinder and I dont have an engine in my car now.

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 8:54 pm
by MrMazda92
You will want it to be running when you bleed them, so far as I have ever known. You need to have a vacuum source, at least... Another car might work, if you are careful. :shrug:

Edit:
You really don't? I always did it while running... :shrug:

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 10:07 pm
by Sleeper6
you should be safe to bleed them provided you dont let the back of the master run empty that goes into the clutch master, otherwise you might get air

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 29th, 2013, 10:55 pm
by ganue
Folks - you don't need the engine running or a vacuum source. You need someone in the car to press on the brakes when you open the bleed screw and lift when you close the bleed screw. Probably have done this 100 times.

Sequence:

1) Guy (or girl) on bleed screw opens the screw - says "down"
2) Guy (or girl) in car presses the brake slowly to the floor and states "down" when he/she hits the floor
3) Guy (or girl) on bleed screw closes the screw - says "up"
4) Guy (or girl) in car lifts foot slowly until brake is fully UN depressed - says "up"
5) etc. until no air is seen coming through the clear plastic tube that you connected to the bleed screw.

Start at the farthest corner from the master cylinder.

You did connect a clear plastic tube to the bleed screw right?

As far as fluid levels, every 5-6 pumps check the level and add as needed. Shouldn't have an issue with the clutch portion of the reservoir.

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 30th, 2013, 12:15 pm
by Josh
ganue wrote:Folks - you don't need the engine running or a vacuum source. You need someone in the car to press on the brakes when you open the bleed screw and lift when you close the bleed screw. Probably have done this 100 times.

Sequence:

1) Guy (or girl) on bleed screw opens the screw - says "down"
2) Guy (or girl) in car presses the brake slowly to the floor and states "down" when he/she hits the floor
3) Guy (or girl) on bleed screw closes the screw - says "up"
4) Guy (or girl) in car lifts foot slowly until brake is fully UN depressed - says "up"
5) etc. until no air is seen coming through the clear plastic tube that you connected to the bleed screw.

Start at the farthest corner from the master cylinder.

You did connect a clear plastic tube to the bleed screw right?

As far as fluid levels, every 5-6 pumps check the level and add as needed. Shouldn't have an issue with the clutch portion of the reservoir.

This!!!!! ^^^

Who said you need the car running!? You DON'T want your car running.

There are a couple of other options. You can buy speed bleeders they are awesom, or at harbor freight they have a cheap and I mean cheap bleeder for under 20 bucks, I eventually got the job done but ended up having the girl help and did it old school for extra reassurance.

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 30th, 2013, 12:37 pm
by WhiteFinish
Ok, bleeding was clear.
Just wanted to know if the brakes will interfere with the clutch. (drawing in false air)

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 30th, 2013, 3:48 pm
by Josh
WhiteFinish wrote:Ok, bleeding was clear.
Just wanted to know if the brakes will interfere with the clutch. (drawing in false air)

No they are separate, BUT if you do not have the clutch hooked up the fluid will leak out of the res.

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 30th, 2013, 4:33 pm
by WhiteFinish
So you're saying; just hook up the clutch line and clutch slave and I'll be fine.

Re: Bleeding the brakes

Posted: July 30th, 2013, 7:48 pm
by Josh
WhiteFinish wrote:So you're saying; just hook up the clutch line and clutch slave and I'll be fine.
Yeah, you dont want the fluid to leak out all over. Bleed your brakes away at that point. you will have to bleed the clutch later on. no pressure goes to the clutch unless the pedal is pressed so you are good.