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"Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 15th, 2013, 8:09 pm
by MrMazda92
I've gotten most of the suspension yanked from my '92, but am stuck on the front passenger corner currently.
Nothing I have done will free the axle nut from the axle, and I am running out of time to get this done before I have to pull the engine.
So far I knocked the bent portion of the nut free from the slot in the axle, so it *should* spin freely with properly applied torque. No such luck
I used a 24" breaker bar with a 4 foot cheater pipe attached, and only managed to lift the car off of the jackstands.
My impact gun was of no use, and I am debating two options right now:
- Grind the nut on 2 opposing sides and torque it until it snaps and falls off(to spare the threads on the axle)
- Remove the balljoint and tie-rod end, and then pull the axle with the hub still attached
Am I missing another obvious method to remove this?
The car is not currently running, so using the engine to free it is a no-go.
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 15th, 2013, 9:12 pm
by Daninski
Use a dremel tool and cut the nut. I had trouble with that side as well. 3/4 drive bar with 5' pipe with 260lb+ fat bastard bouncing on the end and no luck. A torch may help cutting is sure fire.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 15th, 2013, 9:15 pm
by MrMazda92
Argh, I was hoping to avoid that.
That's a pretty graphic image you just put in my head Dan, thank you for that!
I don't have a torch at the house right now unfortunately, but I'll cut the damn thing off tomorrow.
How easy is it to damage the threads on the axle itself? I am thinking I should cut most of the way through the nut and then whack it with a hammer and chisel. The axle is less than a year old, and the boots are undamaged, so it should have some life left in it!
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 15th, 2013, 11:10 pm
by mitmaks
Heat and impact gun. Maybe rent a bigger impact gun. I have 230ft/lb one but recently bough 580 ft/lb Craftsman for future.
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 15th, 2013, 11:21 pm
by Redline322
I had the same problem, pulled the spindle, axle and all and took it to a shop that had some good torches before I got my own. They put it in a vice, heated it up and off it came with one shot from the impact gun.
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 15th, 2013, 11:41 pm
by MrMazda92
Hmm, I keep forgetting I bought a new impact gun as well... I have been using one that I borrowed last year, and the guy who loaned it to me isn't returning my calls.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Keep forgetting to break mine out and give it a shot.
I'll pick up a torch later this week too, I've been meaning to buy a few others tools and I may as well consolidate the shopping.
I'll give heat + impact a shot first you guys, then I'll do as Redline said if I am unsuccessful. Thank you for the tips!
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 12:26 am
by crazycanadian
MrMazda92 wrote:Hmm, I keep forgetting I bought a new impact gun as well... I have been using one that I borrowed last year, and the guy who loaned it to me isn't returning my calls.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Keep forgetting to break mine out and give it a shot.
I'll pick up a torch later this week too, I've been meaning to buy a few others tools and I may as well consolidate the shopping.
I'll give heat + impact a shot first you guys, then I'll do as Redline said if I am unsuccessful. Thank you for the tips!
What are you using for an impact? air or electric??
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 2:13 am
by MrMazda92
Air, but my own gun is more powerful than my friend's, I just never thought to even check.
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 3:19 am
by crazycanadian
MrMazda92 wrote:Air, but my own gun is more powerful than my friend's, I just never thought to even check.
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
What kind of tank set up are you using... I am asking because some air guns need a lot of air volume and psi to work at peek power... most home brew stuff isn't good enough... I have yet to meet an axle nut that I couldn't get loose with my 1/2" impact gun at work...
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 5:03 am
by mikeetown
i had this problem with my 1991 mx3. I heated up the nut with a joe shmoe torch, then, i lit a camdle and melted candle wax all over it close up ti the nut. Then i put on an 8 foot pipe onto my best breaker bar and it moved like butter.
before that.........
used a half a can of move it for a day, had my 260lb fat a-- jump on the bar and raised the car off the rear jackstands almost hahahaha.
try it
![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 9:56 am
by MrMazda92
crazycanadian,
I'm using an embarrassingly small pancake compressor, as my "real" compressor caught on fire last year.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I usually get 2-3 "shots" of 2 seconds with the impact gun before I need to let it refill already. I'm reppin' the super ghetto airtool setup here
mikeetown,
What did the candle wax add to the equation??
![Surprised :o](./images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif)
I haven't seen that as a recommendation before, but it's always interesting to learn something new!
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 10:14 am
by marcdh
I think the theory is the melted wax enters the threads via capillary action, which sets itself up as a lubricant. It seemed to help me too.
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 11:57 am
by WhiteFinish
I just used a big iron square bar, drilled some holes in it.
Attached to holes to my lugs, and got the nut off.
Re: "Stuck" axle nut giving me trouble
Posted: January 16th, 2013, 12:29 pm
by MrMazda92
Thank you marcdh, makes enough sense to me...
WhiteFinish,
Nice! I jammed a prybar against the ground, your method is way more refined, and I'd say safer haha. Prybar slipped and caught my left knee. ;(