Engineers Club of MX-3.com!

[Juans_93_MX3]

I mean, not many people post on these forums!
Anyway, I want to take a break from Fluid Dynamics homework real fast and introduce some ideas.

For starters, I think we need to make a club of Engineers for this website. Mechanical, Chemical, Physics (it can still be engineering), Electrical, welders, machining, fabricators (can be considered MET), etc.
Basically anyone who has car related talents (academically or experience).
We'll break it up into subsets. Our experienced mechanics, mechanical engineers, etc.

We can call it... "The MX3 Team" or something.

I have access to Solid Works and this winter break I am thinking of building a model for the MX3 engine bay.

The whole idea for this is to use our knowledge and do what engineers would do. Find ways of making the MX3 faster but without costing alot of $$$.
Or doing some cool a-- stuff (Rotary swap or some other Mazda family swap outside of the K series family).


I think a FWD MX3 with a Rotary engine or a Mazda 6 V6 engine would be damn sweet.
People will doubt... but hey, we have engineers on this website all united.

[Ryan]

First of all, Eff fluid dynamics. I hate integrals in general, so fluids is not where I find happiness.

Second, this seems like a lot of work.

Third, why.

I also have 365 SW access, but I chose to use it for FSAE, and I don't really have time to model other stuff in my spare time(har har, spare time).

The next thing is, I don't know how many of us are actual P.Eng, if any. I think once you actually have a career like that... you quit dabbling in forums.

But hey, if you want to organize this, be my guest.

[Juans_93_MX3]

First of all, Eff fluid dynamics. I hate integrals in general, so fluids is not where I find happiness.

Second, this seems like a lot of work.

Third, why.

I also have 365 SW access, but I chose to use it for FSAE, and I don't really have time to model other stuff in my spare time(har har, spare time).

The next thing is, I don't know how many of us are actual P.Eng, if any. I think once you actually have a career like that... you quit dabbling in forums.

But hey, if you want to organize this, be my guest.

Why? Just kicking around a idea.

And yeah... Engineering a spare time?

[Daninski]

7 years ago yes, now with our car in it's declining years I'd say it may be an effort in futility. Most of what can be done has been done. Very little to rehash. Nice to see we still have interest for improvement.

[_-Night-Shade-_]

Aka nerds of mx-3.com j/k don't hate me guys

I have many "car related talents" (more so than a lot of engineers probably) and I'm not an engineer

[Ryan]

No doubt, 80% of Engineers never design anything for cars.

I'm sure you're a smart guy and all, but I wouldn't go about pontificating about knowing more than most engineers about cars. Its a 4-7 year degree, with 3 years experience before you can actually call yourself an engineer. So unless you're 25+ with above average intelligence... in that case you're only missing the ring, and a s--- ton of theory.

[_-Night-Shade-_]

As far as cars go, yeah I have a better understanding of the automotive physics and mechanics than some people studying engineering out there. You can teach yourself anything these days, the difference between that and going to school for it is that you get a fancy piece of paper, for the most part.

[wytbishop]

You can teach yourself anything these days, the difference between that and going to school for it is that you get a fancy piece of paper, for the most part.

That is a very bold and wildly inaccurate statement Igor. I love you like a little brother but...um...no.

[Josh]

You can teach yourself anything these days, the difference between that and going to school for it is that you get a fancy piece of paper, for the most part.

That is a very bold and wildly inaccurate statement Igor. I love you like a little brother but...um...no.

I think there might be a bit of truth to that. Some of the most successful and influential people are not college educated.

BTW if some of you engineers are ever looking for employment... let me know, I place engineers with clients of mine in aerospace and petroleum industries.. Just sayin

[Ryan]

You can teach yourself anything these days, the difference between that and going to school for it is that you get a fancy piece of paper, for the most part.

That is a very bold and wildly inaccurate statement Igor. I love you like a little brother but...um...no.

I think there might be a bit of truth to that. Some of the most successful and influential people are not college educated.

You're talking about the handful of people in recorded history? Yeah, sure, some of the most. They're also usually geniuses.

But there's 6-odd billion people on the planet, and by staggering majority, the educated ones are smarter than the uneducated.

If you think your own brain can come up with ideas just as good as the collaboration of lifetimes of brains over many generations, you're either super pompous, or just plain stupid.

[Daninski]

I feel the intellectually challenged are not being proportionally represented here so I've decided to take up the flag for them. We never graduated from any institute of higher learning and the only club we'd be qualified for might be 'The Hair Club for Men' but all that aside. I feel nothing can replace or get you through this world of ours more than some good 'common dog' (common sense). My 5 cents.

[Ryan]

But common sense won't help you design an efficient intake manifold. Fluids make no sense, nevermind common sense.

[Sleeper6]

No doubt, 80% of Engineers never design anything for cars.

I'm sure you're a smart guy and all, but I wouldn't go about pontificating about knowing more than most engineers about cars. Its a 4-7 year degree, with 3 years experience before you can actually call yourself an engineer. So unless you're 25+ with above average intelligence... in that case you're only missing the ring, and a s--- ton of theory.

Sorry Ryan but as much as I always appreciate your help and input I see you traveling along the path of the engineer all to well. This is where I have to agree with Night-shade that most engineers while they are highly educated and very useful lack some of the most important teachings of practical application. They never actually design anything they just come up with a layout that will work given x number of scenarios. To design something it has to work for the user, not just the application. Take for example the adjustment bolts on a B6 alternator, the front top bolt is easily accessed where-as the lower bolt head that also should be loosened is placed under the manifold? Sure it works and fits all your engineering requirements but it isn't very practical, why not put it on the proper belt side. Maybe thats just my un-educated common sense side talking, or maybe, just maybe its the resentment that someone else who also holds atleast a 4yr degree was so ignorant as to design something like that.

[Ryan]

Yes, thats the main issue with engineering.... It costs a s--- ton of money to prototype anything so you can physically see how it works

So once you come up with a way to determine exactly how much room there'll be around a component in an imaginary space, you should let the world know, you'll make a s--- ton of money. Modeling only goes so far.

As a engineering student, I have to be defensive, especially towards people who don't know what engineers actually DO... I'm not even sure what engineers do.

Perhaps you don't appreciate the magnitude of the jobs carried by engineers....

[Nd4SpdSe]

I agree with both sides. Being smart usually means you have an education but doesn't mean you have to have one to know what you're talking about. Also, having an education either doesn't mean you're smart and knowledgable either...

My experience and personal opinion with Engineers is that they're too stuck on the math. Just cause the math says something works in a certain way, doesn't mean it will. Also just cause the math says it's impossible, doesn't mean it isn't either. They also get bored and like to over-engineer things beyond practicality, lol!