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Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 1:19 am
by mazdaspeed23
hey guys i have a 94 mx3 KLZE manual, i broke my axle the other day so i just replaced it, everything went back together well, at leats the axle went back into place the way it seemed, but now i have a problem, when i was driving down the road, i could feel the front right tire being pushed outwards once in a while, and when i turn to the left it seems really lose like the trire isnt biting like it should, so i jacked the frond end up, put the car in gear and watched the tires and had someone turn the tires while in the air and in gear, i could see and hear the problem, but to get a better look i took the tire off and look inside down the axle shaft and into the transmission where the axle sits, so heres the problem, every once in a while it seems like something in the tranmission where the end of the axle goes, it seems to be pushing the axle in and out. like when the axle turns, then its almost like it kicks the axle out of place then sets it back in place.. I need help guys, is this the axle? or the transmission? or what else could it be.... please please get back to me, im tryin to get it fixed before the 18th, ( i wanna run it at the 1/4 mile before the track closes for the winter)

Thanks Paul..

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 8:38 am
by mazdags94
That part of the shaft shouldn't move, period. there should be an intermediate shaft that comes out of the tranny and bolts to the block to avoid movement. The bracket that bolts to the block houses a bearing and the cv joint will connect to the intermediate shaft and go into the hub. If the shaft is moving inside the tranny, you either didn't bolt in the intermediate shaft or a bad bearing (on the IS).

Can you take any underside pics to post? The bracket should have 2 or 3 bolts into the block, depending on what year ZE you have.

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 8:38 am
by wytbishop
I assume you're talking drivers side. Was the little wire clip in place on the end of the axle when you installed it? Did you push the new axle all the way in? Either theres no clip or the clip isn't "clipped" into the differential. That's the only way the CV joint can move like that.

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 8:46 am
by Ryan
the driver's side is held into the differential, and the passenger side is held into the intermediate shaft with C clips. The knuckle on the cv shaft should tear apart before the axle moves from its seat.

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 9:36 am
by mazdags94
wytbishop wrote:I assume you're talking drivers side. Was the little wire clip in place on the end of the axle when you installed it? Did you push the new axle all the way in? Either theres no clip or the clip isn't "clipped" into the differential. That's the only way the CV joint can move like that.
+1

Depending on the clip (if it has one) they can be a real pain in the a** to get them to 'click' back into place.

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 11:00 am
by mazdaspeed23
hey mazdsgs94 its the passenger side, and when i pushed the axle back in place into the dipper, i did have a hard time trying to get it to connect into the C clip inside, i will go and take a picture of it right now, and post it.. my ball joint is going aswell. its not to the point where it needs to be replaced so i dont think that has any play it..

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 11:42 am
by wytbishop
Oh...then I'm guessing you messed up the bearing in the intermediate shaft housing. the inetermediate shaft doesn't have a clip where it inserts into the differential because it is held rigidly in place by the bracket which bolts to the block. If it's moving in and out of the diff it can only be because the carrier bearing in the intermediate housing is damaged...or if the bracket is not tight on the block I suppose.

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 12:00 pm
by mazdaspeed23
when you pull the axle out of the dipper and it has the piece still in the dipper theres a tight ring around the ridged teeth, so when you put the axle back in place it snaps into place, but when i put the axle back in, it was kinda hard so maybe i didnt have the ridged teeth set up just right, now worse case if ther barrings in the housing are gone, how do i replace the barrings in the dipper?. i took 2 pictures of the axle, 1st pic is of the end of the axle inside the dipper, the 2nd is of the axle from the tire view point...

try this link to see the picturs. its not uploading on here for me.. if they dont work, send me ur email and ill send you the pics

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Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 1:11 pm
by Ryan
Just sounds like you're not seating that axle correctly. See if your circlip is sticking out unevenly, maybe take it off and squeeze it a bit, and seriously try to ram that axle in.

Re: Axle change, now probelms

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 1:34 pm
by mazdaspeed23
yeh i was kinda thinking the same thing, that i might have to take it off and try and get it back in there correctly, just a pain in the a-- is all... but i will do that now, and get back to you guys and let ya no how it worked out