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Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 3:54 pm
by DeadMaker
Ok guys this how my ECU looks
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This is OBDI or OBDII?

Three yellow lines are coming to the ports.One port of the ecu is not connected.

Thank you..

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 5:01 pm
by Demonic1
The title of the listing says it's for a 94
The product description says it was pulled from a 95

94 and 95 were 1.6 DOHC

It's ODB-II

I have and ODB-I ECU from my 92 RS (Manual) if you need one...

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 5:04 pm
by Daninski
4 plugs usually means OBD2. I googled the pn and got a pile of off shore, screwed up written web sits. Check with Mazda for the correct pn.

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 5:12 pm
by DeadMaker
Demonic1 wrote:The title of the listing says it's for a 94
The product description says it was pulled from a 95

94 and 95 were 1.6 DOHC

It's ODB-II

I have and ODB-I ECU from my 92 RS (Manual) if you need one...
I have already the ecu in the car.I just wanted to know what type it is.
It's strange cause i asked a mazda mechanical here in Greece and he told me that all mx3 here are obdI
My mx3 is 1997 model.And the ecu which i have is exactly as the pic shows.
If he is wrong...HOW the hell he calls himself an engineer???

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 5:32 pm
by Demonic1
The OBD was taken up for emissions controls. I'm not sure how well it translated to Europe, but I'd think they'd have the same setup on them. I mean why would Mazda put different setups if it required all those extra different parts.

The quickest way to tell would be to find the Diagnostics connector..
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This is and OBD2 connector... the OBD-I is .. simpler
Also, OBD2 were required to be mounted within 2 feet of the driver. Unless the company filed for an exemption.
***edit***
Here's the OBD-I connector for my car (under my hood, behind my battery)
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And a picture of the ECU connectors for my (pre-BP) B6 5speed ECU.
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The Automatic had 3 connectors, one was for the transmission.

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 6:34 pm
by DeadMaker
Thank you for your information..!!

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 7:02 pm
by umcamara
Demonic1 wrote:The title of the listing says it's for a 94
The product description says it was pulled from a 95

94 and 95 were 1.6 DOHC

It's ODB-II

I have and ODB-I ECU from my 92 RS (Manual) if you need one...
Your post implies that 1.6 DOHC's were all OBD-II, this isn't true. In North America, '96 and some '95's were OBD-II. And there is speculation that European models never went to OBD-II.

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 8:52 pm
by Daninski
Someone should KLZE that John Deer. :lol:

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 9:05 pm
by Demonic1
Yeah I guess it could be read that way.
Apologies.

Best way is to just hunt down the connector on your car...

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 9:08 pm
by Demonic1
Daninski wrote:Someone should KLZE that John Deer. :lol:
seriously... in the 4cyl forum? I was thinking BPT

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 10:32 pm
by 96chris
so if its under your hood behind your battery its an OBDI? not OBDII?

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 3rd, 2010, 10:52 pm
by wytbishop
If it is true that all MX-3s were built in Japan, I find it hard to believe that they would buildl some OBD2 cars for north america and other places, and not just make them all OBD2 when the switch started. I mean I don't know that they did or didn't, it just seems like that would be a costly and organizationally challenging thing to do.

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 4th, 2010, 12:59 am
by Demonic1
96chris wrote:so if its under your hood behind your battery its an OBDI? not OBDII?
Not specifically. The standard stated the OBD-II connector was to be placed within 2 feet of the drivers position. But if the manufacturer filed for an exception they could put it anywhere.

I've never seen an OBD-II connector or its placement on an MX-3. But it is a standardized connector (see top photo in my earlier post). If you have that connector, it's OBD-II. If you have the second connector like me (located behind your battery) it's OBD-I.

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 4th, 2010, 3:34 am
by RS_OBD'oh_2
the OBDII connector MUST be easy to get to... never hidden, unless clearly noted on the cover.

Re: Is this OBDI or OBDII???

Posted: May 4th, 2010, 10:04 am
by umcamara
Demonic1 wrote:I've never seen an OBD-II connector or its placement on an MX-3. But it is a standardized connector (see top photo in my earlier post). If you have that connector, it's OBD-II. If you have the second connector like me (located behind your battery) it's OBD-I.
Not to be cheeky. But as in your post above, this post implies something that is not true. The OBD-II MX-3's have the OBD-II port in the cabin, as well as the diagnostic connector under the hood. Therefore, existence of the diagnostic connector does not mean OBD-I :wink: