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KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 13th, 2010, 3:26 am
by SpatialTerror
ok so i bought a klze. i think it is a millenia motor. but from what ive read all i have to do is get the right cams and pistons?
and another thing. my distributor on this new motor is shot. can i use the one off my old k8?
and yes i have put it the motor in.
so i am still kinda unsure if i have the real klze. i know that cams arent the kl-21 there the kl-01 which comes in the millenia right?
but how do i know if the pistons are the right ones?

Re: KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 15th, 2010, 1:42 am
by RX8SE3P
Pistons will probably be ok, I would not bother, I don't even think you'd notice a massive difference from having ZE ones.

The cams should be KL31, if it's KL01 you will probably have a little less power.

You can use the old disty, in fact people recommend you always use your old disty as it's wired up correctly for your ECU. The one from your new engine might be from a different year and might not work because of it.

Re: KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 15th, 2010, 2:55 am
by SpatialTerror
sweet. so the cams dont make a huge difference.
and that was my problem. i put the old dist on and it works great

Re: KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 15th, 2010, 5:43 am
by RX8SE3P
SpatialTerror wrote:sweet. so the cams dont make a huge difference.
and that was my problem. i put the old dist on and it works great
Oh they would make a difference, not night and day but in an MX-3, a healthy millenia engine with some headers will haul a-- nicely.

Re: KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 15th, 2010, 6:52 am
by SpatialTerror
ok so a friend of mine also told me to put headers on it. but i am planning to put a turbo on it. not in the near future. but is it better to go preformance without a turbo or. preformance with a turbo? and i am also thinking to put headers on temporarly until i get a turbo. could i resell my headers easily?

Re: KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 15th, 2010, 7:40 am
by RX8SE3P
Pretty sure headers are cheap as chips in the USA so you wouldn't pay much for a set in the first place and it would help your power.

I'd be going with headers and an N/A application as it's more reliable, you can beat on it fairly often and the engines last long when maintained. Turbo just adds a whole lot of potential problems IMO and it's expensive to do it properly.

I've read many times before and agree with the statement that you can have:

Cheap and fast (not reliable)
Fast and reliable (not cheap)
Cheap and reliable (not fast)

You can't have all three though :P

Re: KLZE distributor&motor questions

Posted: January 15th, 2010, 11:21 am
by Daninski
Here Ya go. all the info you'll need. NOTE the head codes for the ZE KL31-101 and KL31-1A1. If you don't have these codes you don't have a ZE.
Engine Code KLZE KLZE KLDE KLDE
Horsepower* 200 @ 6500 RPM 200 @ 6500 RPM 164 @ 6000 RPM 164 @ 6000 RPM
KLDE
170 @ 6500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)* 165 @ 5500 RPM 165 @ 4800 RPM 156 @ 4000 RPM 160 @ 4800 RPM 160 @ 5000 RPM
Compression Ratio* 10:1 10:1 9.2:1 9.2:1
9.5:1
Bore x Stroke *(mm) 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2
Ports* Square Square D-shaped D-shaped Square
Head Codes KL31-101 and KL31-1A1* KL31-101 and KL31-1A1* KL-101 and KL-1A1* KL-101 and KL-1A1* KL-31
Cams Codes KL-31* KL-01* KL-01* KL-01* ??
Intake Manifold* Long Neck
Curved neck
Short Neck
Short Neck
Curved neck

VRIS #1 Open ??mm ??mm 750 rpms* 750 rpms* ??mm
VRIS #1 Close ?? ?? 3250 rpms* 3250 rpms* ??
VRIS #2 Open ?? ?? 4250 rpms* 4250 rpms* ??
VRIS #2 Close 6250 rpms 6250 rpms 6250 rpms* 6250 rpms* 6250 rpms
Stock RPM Limit* 7500 7500 7000 7000 7500
Fuel Pressure ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
Pistons* Flat Top Flat Top Dished Dished Dished
ECU KL31/36* ?? ?? ?? ??
Air Meter* JE-50 VAF MAF KL02 VAF KL02 VAF MAF