Clutch switch bypass switch
Posted: January 7th, 2010, 1:15 am
Clutch switch bypass switch
I want to put a switch into the dashboard of my 94 GS in the place of the 93 style hazard switch blank, that allows the passenger to press and hold the button while starting the car using the key, so that they don’t have to press the clutch pedal.
Okay, first of all, I’d like to say I’m pondering this for a few reasons:
- Its reallycold here, and its nice if the passenger can start the car.
- I park the car so that the passenger side is closest to the house
- I hate half-sitting in the car and getting my snowey shoes in the car more than I have to
- I like to think I have a lot of spare time
Here’s the basics of the plan:
-The switch itself will be like the ‘cruise off’ switch in that it will spring back to a position. You must press and hold the switch in order to start the car, similar to the clutch.
-The clutch switch will still operate normally
-I would like to work in the neutral switch, so that there is no chance of starting the car in gear by using this switch
-I am thinking that I will primarily put this switch in parallel with the clutch switch. In one side of the wire to the new switch, I would like to put in the interrupter component, relying on the neutral switch.
Research Blah Blah
NEUTRAL SWITCH:
-According to this physical diagram the switch is on the top of the transmission (mostly new to V6’s, excuse my need to include new knowledge) http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... J2-016.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-After much scrounging, I found the MTX neutral switch in section F2, of all places, not the transmission section: http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... F2-158.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-Also in the wiring diagrams: http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... /Z-042.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Input - from ECM (BR/Y)
Output – GND (B)
Neutral - closed circuit
Gear - open circuit
So I may use this switch to power a relay (trigger) in order to fire the relay, close the clutch switch bypass switch, unless there is an easier way.
CLUTCH SWITCH:
The clutch switch is B/R and B/L where BR is on the starter side, and B/L is ‘after’ the switch, before the ignition switch. Circuit closed when clutch depressed, and open when not depressed.
Problems I forsee:
-The relay firing every time I change gears. (gear - neutral - gear)
-Messing with the neutral switch circuit by adding the relay trigger circuit in parallel, or series... messes with it.
- Is the input voltage from the ECM to the neutral switch enough to operate the relay trigger?
What else can I use aside from a relay? I'm not extremely apt with this kind of thing... how can I use a signal as a switch to open or close another circuit? I thought relays were only for a signal operating a higher power circuit...
Feedback welcome
Ryan
I want to put a switch into the dashboard of my 94 GS in the place of the 93 style hazard switch blank, that allows the passenger to press and hold the button while starting the car using the key, so that they don’t have to press the clutch pedal.
Okay, first of all, I’d like to say I’m pondering this for a few reasons:
- Its reallycold here, and its nice if the passenger can start the car.
- I park the car so that the passenger side is closest to the house
- I hate half-sitting in the car and getting my snowey shoes in the car more than I have to
- I like to think I have a lot of spare time
Here’s the basics of the plan:
-The switch itself will be like the ‘cruise off’ switch in that it will spring back to a position. You must press and hold the switch in order to start the car, similar to the clutch.
-The clutch switch will still operate normally
-I would like to work in the neutral switch, so that there is no chance of starting the car in gear by using this switch
-I am thinking that I will primarily put this switch in parallel with the clutch switch. In one side of the wire to the new switch, I would like to put in the interrupter component, relying on the neutral switch.
Research Blah Blah
NEUTRAL SWITCH:
-According to this physical diagram the switch is on the top of the transmission (mostly new to V6’s, excuse my need to include new knowledge) http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... J2-016.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-After much scrounging, I found the MTX neutral switch in section F2, of all places, not the transmission section: http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... F2-158.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-Also in the wiring diagrams: http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... /Z-042.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Input - from ECM (BR/Y)
Output – GND (B)
Neutral - closed circuit
Gear - open circuit
So I may use this switch to power a relay (trigger) in order to fire the relay, close the clutch switch bypass switch, unless there is an easier way.
CLUTCH SWITCH:
The clutch switch is B/R and B/L where BR is on the starter side, and B/L is ‘after’ the switch, before the ignition switch. Circuit closed when clutch depressed, and open when not depressed.
Problems I forsee:
-The relay firing every time I change gears. (gear - neutral - gear)
-Messing with the neutral switch circuit by adding the relay trigger circuit in parallel, or series... messes with it.
- Is the input voltage from the ECM to the neutral switch enough to operate the relay trigger?
What else can I use aside from a relay? I'm not extremely apt with this kind of thing... how can I use a signal as a switch to open or close another circuit? I thought relays were only for a signal operating a higher power circuit...
Feedback welcome
Ryan