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kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 12:34 am
by hgallegos915
Ok guys... I searched and got no specific answer....


how much clutch is to much clutch and to weak of a clutch?


So far the clutch masters fx300 and a fidanza flywheel = fail on a lightly boosted ze at 5 psi.


Act = fail.. was slipping under boost.

Now the problem may be my fidnaza, I have decided to go to a k8 flywheel

and a good clutch.


I was eyeballing a stage 4 spec clutch. I was looking at the stage 3, but the stage 4 is only aeound 14 dllrs more.



What are your guy's info? what GOOD clutch should a boosted kl car run?

and why am I the only one having these issues.. is anyone else having these problems with their cars?
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Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 12:37 am
by 2RotorsNaDream
ACT all day. Go get the 6 puck sprung/unsprung (doesnt really matter), Xtreme PP, and keep the stock flywheel. I run this setup in my FD and I'm making 364whp and the clutch has been nothing but great. I Auto-X the car regularly and have dragged it occasionally hitting 11.8 in the ΒΌ and still not a hiccup.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 12:52 am
by hgallegos915
I was looking at that set up, I dont get it tho, the kit costs $424

but when you pick the pressureplate alone (HD) and the 6 puck disk.. its cheaper.. what gives?

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 1:28 am
by ElectricEnergy
If you buy the kit it probably comes with a throw out bearing, pilot bearing and alignment tool.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 1:48 am
by hgallegos915
I ordered a spec stage 3 clutch, 300 dllrs. shipped. well 309. not bad..

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 2:59 am
by 2RotorsNaDream
hgallegos915 wrote:I ordered a spec stage 3 clutch, 300 dllrs. shipped. well 309. not bad..
Bad move, you should've spent the extra $100. I can see you looking for a new clutch again soon. Guess you didnt learn the first time you bought a clutch for this setup. :shrug:

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 5:47 am
by johnmx3ze
hey hec still no more clutch lol youll have to take out all the turbo and pipes and all that s--- to put in your clutch but i hope it holds... you should of spent a lil more so you wont have to do it again... i have a bully performance clutch stage 3 and i never had a problem holds very good... it never slipped... and i paid 515$...

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 11:17 am
by projectzemx3
hgallegos915 wrote:I ordered a spec stage 3 clutch, 300 dllrs. shipped. well 309. not bad..
i was going to say spec stage 2 plus. it is supposedly stage 3 tough but stage 2 driveable.

spec stage 3 clutch sounds good, i have a spec stage 2.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 1:26 pm
by onlytrueromeo
I'd rather get a stage3 over a stage 2R. The kevlar has some issues, I did alot of reading on probetalk when I picked my stage 1.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 1:40 pm
by hgallegos915
Illa Killa wrote:
hgallegos915 wrote:I ordered a spec stage 3 clutch, 300 dllrs. shipped. well 309. not bad..
Bad move, you should've spent the extra $100. I can see you looking for a new clutch again soon. Guess you didnt learn the first time you bought a clutch for this setup. :shrug:
But why tho? its rated at 350ish torque, Im sure my mx3 will never hit the over 300 torque mark. They had the stage 4 for 14 dllrs more but well, I went by the rating i guess.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 1:57 pm
by onlytrueromeo
I'm sure it'l be fine. I've heard good review from them. I know ACT can take some serious beatings though too!

Just remember to break it in for a good long time before you take it to the drags!

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 23rd, 2009, 2:01 pm
by marcdh
That's the same clutch I have - stageIII spec with 6 puck disc. I am only NA ZE though for now, just planning ahead. It's my daily driver, and has been good so far, though it does squeal a little as if it was springless when taking off slowly in first. From what I've read it's not as brutal on our weak trannys too :)
onlytrueromeo wrote:I'd rather get a stage3 over a stage 2R. The kevlar has some issues, I did alot of reading on probetalk when I picked my stage 1.
That's exactly why I ended up with stageIII! Seems some over there love spec, yet some have had nothing but bother.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: February 24th, 2009, 1:56 am
by BuGS
If I remember right stage III is sprung hub, and stage IV is solid?? If so go for stage III if this is anything close to a street car. Solid hubs = no fun at all on the street...

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: March 2nd, 2009, 6:58 am
by Slammed6
I have to say ACT clutches are at the bottom of my list, And i have tried almost all the clutches made for KL-motors.

My most favorite clutch was a Stage 4 Clutchmaster (4-puck)- Stock pressure plate feel, and smooth engagement, but awesome grip when needed. Ran a 75-shot KLZE on 26" slick outta the hole at the track and the clutch never slipped. I ran my MX-3 in the streets for several years with this clutch and my car on a 100-shot. Held awesome and never slipped once.

Second favorite would have to be the SPEC stage 3 (6-puck)- Same stock pressure plate feel, and smooth engagement. Held nicely under a 100-shot on my MX-6 with a KL-DE.

I've also tried these clutches:
Clutchmasters Stage 2R - Very nice, ran a KLZE on a 75-shot...never slipped
ACT Stage 3 6-Puck - Ridiculously heavy pressure plate, and clutch chatter galore
Clutchmasters Stage 3 - Awesome clutch, but could not handle back to back runs beatin on it.
Fidanza Stage 3 6-puck - Pressure plate is heavier than stock but lighter than ACT, smooth engagement, and held a 170 WHP MX-3. Never pushed it with more power.

Those are the clutches i can remember off the top of my head.

Re: kl turbo CLUTCH tread

Posted: April 7th, 2009, 11:11 pm
by hgallegos915
well Ill be... 500 miles later and this pos STILL slips.. WTH :/



bleh.. maybe fidanza and boost dont go together
?


Im done trying to fix that lol :/