haltech or ms hlep

[claude matte]

is there anyone running haltech systems if so what type for a v6
im cerently running ms v3.0 ms1 ver 26-a but i have no way of tuneing it because im not smart enough it seem to fly right over my head when i read the posts i bought this thing a long time ago i think it was the 2 gb from jordan tuhband, it's never ben running since i had it untill last month it started the car and the a/f say it running realy rich 5.1 at idle and 14.7 lean when i rev it up and it makes boost 15 psi no load. ive loaded n/a maps and boost maps nothing changes. ive had people on probe talk form try to help me but it seem like im wasting there time
as far as i can tell it wired right but im 99% sure.
i cant seem to find a shop that will even tune it around here, know one wants to touch it incase they blow it up
can anyone help me or am i just better off getting a haltech with knowen suport . again thank you for any help . im also up for if anyone live in ontario canada ottawa area that would like to help me for some cash ill pay fair rates . sincerly no f clue what to do Claude Matte

[nope-mx3]

A Haltech is in no way easier to tune than the MS.
If anything it might be even harder, as the MS has a lot of good info on their page. And, MS also has a big fanbase wich helps out a lot.

-n

[PATDIESEL]

Yeah, but if you canot find a tuner, the Haltech might be a better option. It is a good bit more expensive. Make sure the Haltech can work a knock sensor. I know the older ones wouldn't (E6K). It will be a good thing to have if you have a turbo since it will help tell you if there is a problem. The Haltechs are much more expensive though, about 1500 total instead of the 5-600 or so for the MS.

[claude matte]

ya i konw it's more but like i said having support when needed instead of reading 500 post that lead to dead ends is whats helping me make up my mind. also having a shop to bring it to that will tune it is a big plus...
as it stands now i have full built car that i cant get running right and when i call tuners shops none of them have even seen ms let alone f with it .
plus the chance of me street tuning are slim to none now maybe in a few years when i done desifering the info .
but thank you for the in put
i have to fallow up on the knock sen thought thanks

[nope-mx3]

Most tuners should be able to finetune the MS.
The concepts are very much alike.

If you got a V6, you could also try talking to ryan or shaodome on probetalk.
They know a lot regarding MS.

-n

[claude matte]

ya ive had some help form them in the past .im realy liking for some one to tune it as far as shops that would tune it i havent seen one yet willing to take it on
and i sure as hell am not ready to do it my self it taken me about 2 years for saving and work to build my motor id say im in for the far side of 5-6 k in by now i dont need it to go bang

[GoneAmok]

Claude:

Have you been in touch with Tapp Auto? http://www.tappauto.com/page.cfm?id=1 Chris has a rather good reputation for tuning engines and, moreover, can likely propose some options for you (note: I am unsure about their familiarity with MS). Outside of Tapp Auto, some shops in Ottawa talk the talk about engine management, but are not nearly as experienced as Chris.

Hope this is of some assistance. Feel free to drop me a PM if you wish.

[hppwdn]

If you really want Jordan to come tune your MS he does fly around to help people now and then. It's not too cheap because of travel expenses etc.

He's been all over mine since the day I got it. Everywhere from all motor ZE to boosted ZE to the built and boosted motor I'm running now. So he has a ton of experience tuning MS MX3s.

If you want to get in touch with him and can't reach him let me know. We talk on a daily basis.

For small MS issues I might be able to help you with some .vex and .msq files.

PM me because I don't read all the forums too much.

[claude matte]

GoneAmok
i have not talk to anyone at tapp as of yet simply because i want to make 100% sure its intsalled right . but tapp was the place i was going to bring it , a tone of people in cornwall go to him and ive be in the shop when most of them went up he is a good guy, know that he realy know his stuff with hondata and dsm tuning , i was kinda told indirectly that he wasent realy to happy about tuning system that he hasnt touch before since you know how people are he probly has 1000 of good tunes and maybe 5 or 6 bad ones but people only rember the bad tune lol but thats just what ive be told i havent talk to him as of yet ... do you have ms if so your only in o town would you be up for a small road trip ill pay you for you time if you want thanks

hppwdn
that would be great ive been looking for him and i didnt know his screen name and ya i lost his email long long time ago thank you for help

[Limegreen mx-3]

i went eletromotive tec system.. i think im the only mx-3 thats using one in the us states.. its done me good so far.. what i would give to go TEC GT.. LOL

[claude matte]

eletromotive tec system ? whats that
do you have a link thanks

[Limegreen mx-3]

sure rite here

http://www.directignition.com/

[claude matte]

thats a weird set up im sure it works well but you must have great time playing with that lol its got to be a nightmare

i just wanted to say thanks to all of you for taking the time to help me out

especilly hppwdn for walking me through slowly . awsome member

[Limegreen mx-3]

no not really look at the times im running on a bone stock internals never opened and trans as well yes im using slick on my runs.. gotta say something.. and to top it of i only have a street tune i never dynoed the mx-3.. so i have no idea how much power whp i really have..

but hey to each his own.. the newer tec's are even better than the TEC II im running with..