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Help! Replaced rear calipers and no breaks

Posted: January 30th, 2007, 6:12 pm
by Blystan
I have replaced my rear calipers and now I cant get any pedal. I have even had my breaks vented at a proffesional mechanick. Noone knows whats wrong. I only have breaks the last inch and repeatedly pressing on the pedal dosent help. Anybody that know what to do?

Posted: January 30th, 2007, 6:30 pm
by justin22_22
how much fluid was put into the res after the calipers were installed, did they bleed them into the air or back into fluid. Were any lines replaced at the same time. Is it mushy feeling or nothing at all?

Posted: January 30th, 2007, 6:41 pm
by jdMx-3KID
i would just bleed them.... did you try that

Posted: January 30th, 2007, 10:21 pm
by Trevor
No Pedal; Sounds to me that the master Cylinder is Blowen. I Had the same problem on a Mazda MPV, there was no sign of a leak but the seals inside the master blew out. But try bleeding the brake sytem first.

Posted: January 30th, 2007, 11:22 pm
by Yoda
Just a question. Has the park brake cables been installed and adjusted properly? Is there to much clearance between the rear pads and rotor?
You may have to cranks out the piston a turn or two.

hmmmm

Posted: January 31st, 2007, 8:40 am
by Blystan
The breaks have been bleaded many times. The master has been changed already. The fluid has been bleeded from the reservoar and out throug the hole system. No pipes have been changed.

To the one whit the piston, What do you meen???? Cranck out the piston???

Posted: January 31st, 2007, 11:41 am
by Trevor
you have to adjust the clearence between the pad and the rotor. What I think he wants you to do is ratchet the e-brake leaver on the back of each caliper till the pads just start to drag on the rotor. that should bring your pedal up.

Posted: January 31st, 2007, 1:22 pm
by Yoda
Trevor wrote:you have to adjust the clearence between the pad and the rotor. What I think he wants you to do is ratchet the e-brake leaver on the back of each caliper till the pads just start to drag on the rotor. that should bring your pedal up.
Exactly. Mechanics will tell you Mazda rear brakes are self adjusting. That is bull crap. Unless you adjust the initial pads clearance manually it will take for ever the for them to self adjaust and in the meantime it take so much fluid volume to move the piston that some time you may run out of pedal travel. Provided that the mechanical park brake is working if you pull up on the brake lever you should have less pedal travel. If the Park brake is set right they should engage at 7 or 8 clicks and have no free play when down. Check the front pad and rotor thickness as well. If the front calipers have seized and the inside pad is worn more that the outside. This will also require more fluid volume than the Master cylinder can supply in one stroke.

Posted: January 31st, 2007, 1:48 pm
by Custom_V6_Limited_SE
If the front brake pads are very worn, but work evenly, would it affect pedal travel? I have been trying to get my brakes stiffer. I am waiting for my GoodRidge G-Stop brake line kit from CorkSport (And have been for a month!!! :rant2: ).

Posted: January 31st, 2007, 7:37 pm
by Custom_V6_Limited_SE
Speak of the devil. My brake line kit just arrived. :froggie_red:

Posted: January 31st, 2007, 9:44 pm
by Trevor
Yes Worn Front Bake pads would afect pedal travel. just the same as rotor thickness.

Posted: February 5th, 2007, 1:49 pm
by Custom_V6_Limited_SE
Then that explains my pedal travel. To make things worse, I just realized that my front right inner brake pad is gone and scoring my rotor (uneven pad wear). Solution, I got new rotors, calipers, bearings, and Hawk HP-Plus pads. I am officially unhappy with CorkSport now though. After a month, they sent me the wrong brake line kit. It says it's for a RX-8 2003-ON and the front lines are too short and the rear ones are too long. :rant2:

Posted: February 5th, 2007, 2:28 pm
by Trevor
I just Ordered the Techna Fit lines. I can't wait to see how they fit and work.