(Boost wise) KLDE vs. KLZE

Juans_93_MX3 · Post by **Juans_93_MX3** » January 8th, 2007, 1:39 am

KLZE engines are low mileaged enginew (under 60k miles)
KLDE engines, well depends on the Probe, 626 or MX6 you take it out of. Most of the time they are at about 100k miles or more

KLZE engines go for about $1000 along with the right ECU and VAF setup
KLDE engines, you can get them for about $300 along with ECU and VAF ($150 from a junkyard if the engine needs rebuild).

A KLZE has 200hp/160ft torque
A KLDE has 160hp/160ft torque

KLZE, higher comp pistons, better flowing IntakeManfold (less boost friendly)
KLDE, lower comp pistons (more boost friendly)

For boost, what would you rather have?
I think I would rather have a KLDE. Those $700 could be saved to put a turbo system on it. Dont forget it has less compression which makes it easier to tune.
KLZEs would still be best but my goal would be at 260hp and last time I checked, all you need is a KLDE and turbo to get there.

illapino · Post by **illapino** » January 8th, 2007, 1:45 am

Juans_93_MX3 wrote:KLZE engines are low mileaged enginew (under 60k miles)

biggest JDM myth ever: it is never a given that just because ur JDM engine came from a JDM depot it's under 60 000 miles ... i doubt most JDM merchants even know which exact JDM models these JDM engines came JDM out of !

so JDM that!

XxantwawnxX · Post by **XxantwawnxX** » January 8th, 2007, 9:28 am

Dont forget that u get more HP per pound of boost on the ZE cause of its higher compression, thats a good thing : ).

Well i chose to boost a ZE...soo theres my ..choice...

1992blazeredgs · Post by **1992blazeredgs** » January 8th, 2007, 10:03 am

I think is just depends on the person. If you really know your stuff and are not afraid of the consequences of running a boosted ze that is not tuned properly. Than go with a ze because you get more hp quicker. I choose de because it will be my first time ever going boosted and i know i will make mistakes along the way.

Nate

Spinkx79 · Post by **Spinkx79** » January 8th, 2007, 10:09 am

XxantwawnxX wrote:Well i chose to boost a ZE...soo theres my ..choice...

My plan as well

PWRD_BY_HKS · Post by **PWRD_BY_HKS** » January 8th, 2007, 11:26 am

i would go DE with lower compression for more boost

MazdaNoob123 · Post by **MazdaNoob123** » January 8th, 2007, 10:14 pm

id go with a ze
Id take the valve train out of a k8 or a de and use it on a ze.

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » January 8th, 2007, 10:28 pm

XxantwawnxX wrote:Dont forget that u get more HP per pound of boost on the ZE cause of its higher compression, thats a good thing : ).

Well i chose to boost a ZE...soo theres my ..choice...

Exactly. Less boost needed, quicker spool, same power quicker.

Juans_93_MX3 · Post by **Juans_93_MX3** » January 9th, 2007, 12:31 am

I dont know
I am in the middle right now of decideing on what engine to go with
A KLDE is about $500-$700 cheaper then a KLZE and alot easier to find and get. However, a KLZE will benefit more power from a turbo, quicker spool and right off the bat you have a extra 40HP.

hppwdn · Post by **hppwdn** » January 9th, 2007, 9:25 am

I boosted my ZE and reliably ran 10lbs for quite some time. Now I'm gonna try a DE because my turbo is a little big and it's efficiency range is just barely getting touched at the 10psi level. On a de I'll run 13-15lbs and possibly get into the meatier part of the efficiency range on my turbo. We'll see how it goes. I'm getting a DE for free so it's worth a try.

If you're running a smaller turbo (standard 57 trim t3/t4 you see on eBay) and not pushing past 7psi or so a ZE would definitely be the way to go.

Juans_93_MX3 · Post by **Juans_93_MX3** » January 9th, 2007, 4:59 pm

I got a question to all these turboed ZEs
How much power you think your making? Any dynos?

PWRD_BY_HKS · Post by **PWRD_BY_HKS** » January 9th, 2007, 6:21 pm

yo man put it this way i saw some dude pull 200 plus to the wheel with mega squirt all motor...now im not saying that all motor is best i just cant afford boost....honestly.....but it depends how much $$$ and time your willing to spend i mean you can pull just as much power either way ....but like i said....$$$$ has alot to do with it

MazdaNoob123 · Post by **MazdaNoob123** » January 12th, 2007, 4:12 am

well i personally would say that the klze would be faster.
Theoretically the klze has 30-40 more HP than the DE.
The ze will be quicker to Accelerate from low rpm's

mazdaspeedmx_3 · Post by **mazdaspeedmx_3** » January 24th, 2007, 12:06 am

i'd take a ZE boosted at 10psi over a DE bosted at 15

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