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Pic of the TEC II on a boosted stock BP undate

Posted: November 7th, 2006, 11:13 pm
by Limegreen mx-3
Well here are some pic of the TEC II that just got wired up and tuned by ric@racingmazda this past weekend. for now its in the N/A setup untill all the turbo parts come in. the power steering and A/C has been removed done today 11/7/06. this is just a ideal setup i thing most BP owners should do its very quick in its N/A setup 8,000rpms i thinks its a huge difference from the stock BP setup. anyways i'll update as iam done with the kia/mazda g-series hybrid i have been doing.

sorry for the large text just wanted to make sure everyone can read with this large pic's


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here a pic of the trigger wheel kit. all it does timming and kind of acts like a cas. i had to cut a piece of the frame out to fit the braket for the mag sensor.

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there is a 3bar map sensor as weel if u notice no TPS or IAC got rid of that crap

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the vcis & fpr silonilds are gone and if u look carefully the 550cc RC injecters am using for now


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finally gone the infamus bottleneck vaf is gone forever. father up is the Air intake temp sensor. u can see the tec II the brains and the DFU.

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another general view of the tec II

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another pic from afar

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what ric had to tap into and wire up iam clueless with eletrials

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another pic of the TEC II as u can no dizzy

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Posted: November 8th, 2006, 1:51 am
by atlantamx3
Before you put the turbo on, I would love to see a dyno of the engine in its current N/A tune.

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 2:26 am
by PATDIESEL
Isn't that a bad spot for the TechII? It is bolted to the engine which vibrates like hell and gets hot. The two worst enemies for an ECU are heat and vibration. Place a turbo near it and it is a whole hell of alot hotter...
I like the DIS system but the bay needs a majot cleanup and wire reworking to look good. However, none of that matters when you are hauling a--. Good luck. I'd like to see a dyno of that set-up too.

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 3:29 am
by Limegreen mx-3
atlantamx3 wrote:Before you put the turbo on, I would love to see a dyno of the engine in its current N/A tune.
i like to but thats just more time ric@racingmazda would have to tune just to get the most power in the N/A form. i ask but in his opinion its a waste of time since iam going turbo. iam going to the track wednesday night i'll time weight it and and type in the #'s for a general whp #'s. thats the best i can do.

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 3:34 am
by Limegreen mx-3
PATDIESEL wrote:Isn't that a bad spot for the TechII? It is bolted to the engine which vibrates like hell and gets hot. The two worst enemies for an ECU are heat and vibration. Place a turbo near it and it is a whole hell of alot hotter...
I like the DIS system but the bay needs a majot cleanup and wire reworking to look good. However, none of that matters when you are hauling a--. Good luck. I'd like to see a dyno of that set-up too.
i ask ric the same question and he said has done it or put the tec II in the same location and has had no issues so i made the bracket and put the TEC II there. like i told atlantamx3, ric thinks it's a waste of his time to tune it in its N/A state when it's going turbo why pay for 2 dyno secissions. he is right there, but it has got be thinking in doing another project TEC II N/A BP MX-3. it feels so much better and pulls a lot harder verus with the stock harness & ecu & stock BS. (i am going to go with soild motormounts soon.

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 12:08 pm
by projectmx
what exactly does the trigger wheel kit do? does that supply spark to replace the disti? if so why didn't you just use a CAS from a miata? if that isn't what it is then what is it? Also isn't it bad that your spark plug wires don't fill the hole complete? won't water get in there? just wondering

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 1:01 pm
by Limegreen mx-3
projectmx wrote:what exactly does the trigger wheel kit do? does that supply spark to replace the disti? if so why didn't you just use a CAS from a miata? if that isn't what it is then what is it? Also isn't it bad that your spark plug wires don't fill the hole complete? won't water get in there? just wondering
whats with people and saying (isn't it bad that) why would water get in there. the tec uses a lot of gm parts and the NGK wires didnt plug up to the coil packs. so that why am using the MSD wires. the coil packs supply spark and the trigger wheel kit does the timing and tells the tec what rpms the engine is at. i rather do a tec II than the CAS from a miata just to be dizzyless.

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 4:24 pm
by PATDIESEL
We are learning by asking questions ;) I want a Tech III and needed to know b/c mounting it is a big part of the whole process. yaknowwhatImean? You are going to be a whole b---- load faster than us so don't worry about people asking you "isn't it bad"...

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 4:53 pm
by Limegreen mx-3
PATDIESEL wrote:We are learning by asking questions ;) I want a Tech III and needed to know b/c mounting it is a big part of the whole process. yaknowwhatImean? You are going to be a whole b---- load faster than us so don't worry about people asking you "isn't it bad"...
iam not complaining about aswering ?s just the wierd one like will water go in the spark plug hole it will if i drive with no hood. hahaha :lol:

in ur case i forgot u wanted a tec III its little different from the tec II. The tec II is ecu & DFU as one unit and the tec III is ecu seperate and DFU seperate. in ur case the dfu could be place where i put my TEC II and ur ecu could stay under the dash where ever u want it in ur mx-3. in my case iam limited. but a tec III is very costly compared to a TEC II. they do have tec II for the 6 cly

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 6:20 pm
by Josh
looks great!

But isn't it bad to .......... ha ha

i think its great setup. i should have just shelled out the extra 600 bucks to get a tec2 probably one of the best stand alones and probably one of the easiest to install. i got an SDS and spent 1700 with all the extras. it's kind of a pain to install. i think you will like it alot. they seem to do very well. and i think the placement of everything is just fine. the vibration of the engine will not hurt it. if it did it would be a very good setup now would it.

if you want some solid poly filled motor mounts for front and rear, just ask. i made some for one of the Racing Mazda cars.

Posted: November 8th, 2006, 10:55 pm
by Limegreen mx-3
Josh wrote:looks great!

But isn't it bad to .......... ha ha
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Ur a funny guy :o

Josh wrote:if you want some solid poly filled motor mounts for front and rear, just ask. i made some for one of the Racing Mazda cars..
i remember i package the mounts and i labeled them which i now u remember that. white sheet of paper. anyways that would be great i did like the way they came out. i didn't think u made the top tranny mounts too and we didn't have a spare at the time. i guess pm me a price on front and rear tranny mounts motor mount and two top tranny mounts one f-series & g-series. iam going to use the f-series trans untill it give's out. than i'll upgrade. i have all the spare mounts needed to ship out. I work for ric@racingmazda

Posted: November 9th, 2006, 1:17 am
by Limegreen mx-3
Here are some more pic's PS & A/C removed along with the tec wiring all loomed up enjoys any ?'s fire away. U BP owners should really do this standalone N/A setup fun a-- hell to drive.


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its all loomed up looking nice and good

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I need to do something about them termianls


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as u can see the PS & A/C was removed if u notice no need to have a O2 sensor plug in. hahaha


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Lots of open space for the SC61 turbo to come in

Posted: November 9th, 2006, 8:26 am
by projectmx
Limegreen mx-3 wrote:
projectmx wrote:what exactly does the trigger wheel kit do? does that supply spark to replace the disti? if so why didn't you just use a CAS from a miata? if that isn't what it is then what is it? Also isn't it bad that your spark plug wires don't fill the hole complete? won't water get in there? just wondering
whats with people and saying (isn't it bad that) why would water get in there. the tec uses a lot of gm parts and the NGK wires didnt plug up to the coil packs. so that why am using the MSD wires. the coil packs supply spark and the trigger wheel kit does the timing and tells the tec what rpms the engine is at. i rather do a tec II than the CAS from a miata just to be dizzyless.
you are doing the tec II just to make it dizzyless? couldn't you use the tec II with a CAS to make it dizzyless also? Is the tec II not able to get timing from the normal source?

Posted: November 9th, 2006, 10:43 am
by Limegreen mx-3
projectmx wrote:
Limegreen mx-3 wrote:
projectmx wrote:what exactly does the trigger wheel kit do? does that supply spark to replace the disti? if so why didn't you just use a CAS from a miata? if that isn't what it is then what is it? Also isn't it bad that your spark plug wires don't fill the hole complete? won't water get in there? just wondering
whats with people and saying (isn't it bad that) why would water get in there. the tec uses a lot of gm parts and the NGK wires didnt plug up to the coil packs. so that why am using the MSD wires. the coil packs supply spark and the trigger wheel kit does the timing and tells the tec what rpms the engine is at. i rather do a tec II than the CAS from a miata just to be dizzyless.
you are doing the tec II just to make it dizzyless? couldn't you use the tec II with a CAS to make it dizzyless also? Is the tec II not able to get timing from the normal source?
why tec II because iam going boosted and want a proven stanalone to run my engine well and safely. that is what the trigger wheel kit does it does timming pretty much a CAS, and the coil packs provide spark. and i am not using a tec II just be Dizzyless, vaf, tps, iac all removed. iam using a TEC because i want to make 400whp and the stock stuff wont control anything and i never like the piggyback systems i seen to many cars get jacked up because they wheren't insalled right. and besides finding a TEC for $620 i couldn't pass that deal up.

Posted: November 9th, 2006, 11:13 am
by projectmx
geez nice deal.. yeah if i could have found a good standalone for that cheap i would have jumped on it... sadly best i could do was a Greddy EMU with harness for $400 shipped, it isn't a standalone but it is really good and should give me everything i need including no vaf, no disti, i think i can remove tps not sure about iac though. but a lot of the miata guys are using it with turbo and love it and since i'm using a miata ecu and a few other miata parts swapped over i figured it would be a good bet

http://www.importtuner.com/reviews/part ... nt_system/