red line water wetter
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red line water wetter
Hi
I am thinking of adding redline water wetter since i read on the mx-3 gsr page it slightly lowers the position of the temp needle and can assist the engine in running cooler. My question is does anyone use this? Does it work? AND MOST IMPORTANT will it damage my car in any way?
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I am thinking of adding redline water wetter since i read on the mx-3 gsr page it slightly lowers the position of the temp needle and can assist the engine in running cooler. My question is does anyone use this? Does it work? AND MOST IMPORTANT will it damage my car in any way?
Thanks
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Re: red line water wetter
No, it won't damage your car, and no, it won't lower your temperature, which is kept at the correct figure by the thermostat. What it does is improve the heat transfer between the engine and the air which cools the radiator, which is an issue in racing cars, where they keep things as light as possible, so narrow pipes (less water, less weight) and small radiators.
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Re: red line water wetter
it does cool your engine better regardless of the thermostat, and no it won't damage anything but your wallet.
The stuff works to help water absorb heat better, therefore the better cooling properties. Not much, but might help you run more timing etc.
The stuff works to help water absorb heat better, therefore the better cooling properties. Not much, but might help you run more timing etc.
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Re: red line water wetter
Sorry, but I don't agree. What you say about the properties of water wetter is correct, but the only time a stock engine will get benefit from water wetter is if the thermostat is wide open and unable to get the engine cool enough. That simply isn't going to occur unless there is a defect in the cooling system. And if there is, the thing to do is to fix the defect, not add water wetter.
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Re: red line water wetter
IanL is 150% correct!
If you want to buy expensive coolant get some Evans NPG. It lasts forever, has a very, very high boiling point, transfers heat better, can be used at 0 pressure so coolant seals last longer and won't corrode anything in the engine.
http://www.evanscooling.com/main21.htm
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If you want to buy expensive coolant get some Evans NPG. It lasts forever, has a very, very high boiling point, transfers heat better, can be used at 0 pressure so coolant seals last longer and won't corrode anything in the engine.
http://www.evanscooling.com/main21.htm
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Re: red line water wetter
So would I be right in assuming that I will be at no benefit putting this in my car?
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Re: red line water wetter
I don't know about the Redline kind, but I know the Royal Purple watter wetter says: "Purple Ice® prevents the formation of scale deposits in the radiator for optimum coolant flow and lubricates the seals of the water pump."Originally posted by Ayaz:
So would I be right in assuming that I will be at no benefit putting this in my car?
Re: red line water wetter
I'd expect any reasonable quality anti-freeze to do that, and more.Originally posted by lakersfan1:
I don't know about the Redline kind, but I know the Royal Purple watter wetter says: "Purple Ice® prevents the formation of scale deposits in the radiator for optimum coolant flow and lubricates the seals of the water pump."Originally posted by Ayaz:
So would I be right in assuming that I will be at no benefit putting this in my car?
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Sorry but I have watched Water Wetter work on many stock and modified cars. My Sentra had 1500 miles on it, and the temp needle always stayed at halfway at operating temp solid as a rock. I drained the antifreeze about 12 oz and dumped in a bottle of water wetter. Guess what? The needle backed off a notch toward the "C" and has stayed there ever since. Good enough for me to run a few more degrees advance timing on regular octance since the heads are running cooler.....
the proof is in the pudding, not in internet "bench racing". There is a reason redline sells so much of that stuff, because it works, both in straight water and antifreeze...
the proof is in the pudding, not in internet "bench racing". There is a reason redline sells so much of that stuff, because it works, both in straight water and antifreeze...
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Re: red line water wetter
Agreed! I have used it in two vehicles. 69 Roadrunner and a 72 vega. Both vehicles did show a difference after using redline.Originally posted by J Love:
Sorry but I have watched Water Wetter work on many stock and modified cars. My Sentra had 1500 miles on it, and the temp needle always stayed at halfway at operating temp solid as a rock. I drained the antifreeze about 12 oz and dumped in a bottle of water wetter. Guess what? The needle backed off a notch toward the "C" and has stayed there ever since. Good enough for me to run a few more degrees advance timing on regular octance since the heads are running cooler.....
the proof is in the pudding, not in internet "bench racing". There is a reason redline sells so much of that stuff, because it works, both in straight water and antifreeze...
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Re: red line water wetter
OK, I have to accept it works; but how? Only thing I can think of is that it assists in the heat transfer between the water and the thermostat, so the thermostat gets hotter than it normally would for a given water temperature, so it opens a bit more, and settles at a higher flow, keeping the engine temperature lower.
For some cars, you can buy a "cool" thermostat, which would do the same thing at a lot lower cost - I don't know if that applies to ours, though.
For some cars, you can buy a "cool" thermostat, which would do the same thing at a lot lower cost - I don't know if that applies to ours, though.
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Re: red line water wetter
Best explanation I've seen...Originally posted by IanL:
...OK, I have to accept it works; but how?...
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/more_myths1/Water_Wetter/water_wetter.htm
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Re: red line water wetter
In a nutshell, it gives boiling/ or close to boiling water more surface area by eliminating the bubbles coming off the walls of the radiator. If you want to test it out, go buy some water wetter, and bring a pot of water on the stove close to boiling and dump the water wetter in, and you will understand. I work at Advance Auto Parts, and we had a display on these product. Yes, it does work, and no you will not see your temp gauge at a lower temp.
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Re: red line water wetter
WHat kind of a difference?Originally posted by cjthor:
Agreed! I have used it in two vehicles. 69 Roadrunner and a 72 vega. Both vehicles did show a difference after using redline.Originally posted by J Love:
Sorry but I have watched Water Wetter work on many stock and modified cars. My Sentra had 1500 miles on it, and the temp needle always stayed at halfway at operating temp solid as a rock. I drained the antifreeze about 12 oz and dumped in a bottle of water wetter. Guess what? The needle backed off a notch toward the "C" and has stayed there ever since. Good enough for me to run a few more degrees advance timing on regular octance since the heads are running cooler.....
the proof is in the pudding, not in internet "bench racing". There is a reason redline sells so much of that stuff, because it works, both in straight water and antifreeze...
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Re: red line water wetter
I have to say that makes sense to me; just that when someone says his needle is lower, and I haven't tried it.......Originally posted by Bubbaflaat:
.....Yes, it does work, and no you will not see your temp gauge at a lower temp.
I didn't think much of that theory of mine how the needle could be lower, and I'm much happier (in a technical sense) to hear it won't.
Re-shaped and re-sized gearshift lever. Best driveability mod you can do!
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