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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: November 29th, 2012, 12:37 pm
by Josh
Agreed with both above. My first suspension mod was eibach springs and then the koni reds W/O strut bars, and let me tell ya that just the reactivs that I bought originally made a huge difference it was night and day. I am a hardcore believer. My RX8 when I went from the OE bar to the Knight Sports CF brace it was a similar result amazing difference. Nd4SpdSe the OE brace although it has bends they are reinforced with crimps on the underside. I imagine that it does have some flex but on OE suspension that is what the entire chassis is designed to do.
Re: Strut bar design
Posted: November 29th, 2012, 6:35 pm
by MrMazda92
I specifically mentioned the turnbuckles... The main support isn't given by the turnbuckles at all, they are merely a means to tie the reinforcement together. That design may not be ideal, but the adjustability has it's benefits.
We work on cars, every single performance mod comes at a cost. It's a tradeoff... That design allows more freedom for adjustment, which in turn makes it less rigid. A go-kart is great on a smooth track, and would corner better than anything. Throw it on dirt and rocks, and a kid on a bicycle would destroy it.
For what it's worth, I agree that the mounting points on the picture I posted were ridiculous. I still like the turnbuckle idea though, and I know full well how rigid they are, as the almost 100% exclusive shroud adjustment on small to midsize sailboats, they're tried and true.
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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: November 29th, 2012, 7:04 pm
by 300zxrb26dett
And I wasnt referring to the turnbuckles, but anyway we understand each other now.
Re: Strut bar design
Posted: November 29th, 2012, 8:37 pm
by MrMazda92
Good to go.
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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 10th, 2012, 1:33 pm
by Josh
Happen to think about it. The first design Cusco bar clears the ZE with milly manifold.
![Image](http://rupewrecht.com/forsale/fs_az3_cuscofrontbrace.jpg)
Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 10th, 2012, 3:14 pm
by bbunkerc397
Josh wrote:Happen to think about it. The first design Cusco bar clears the ZE with milly manifold.
![Image](http://rupewrecht.com/forsale/fs_az3_cuscofrontbrace.jpg)
I want I want . . .
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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 10th, 2012, 4:45 pm
by WhiteFinish
i don't like it, just give me a Mazdaspeed one
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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 10th, 2012, 8:50 pm
by Mooneggs
Josh wrote:Happen to think about it. The first design Cusco bar clears the ZE with milly manifold.
Pics of this? I guess I just don't see how this is possible with no bends in it.
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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 11th, 2012, 1:51 am
by RobMinhas
Might be a trick of the light, but it seems to be curved a little bit, not unlike the CS bars and the bits were the actual bar mounts seems raised as well.
Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 11th, 2012, 1:09 pm
by Josh
Oh it fits perfectly, and it is completely straight.
This is James from Calgary's car. The 1st gen Cusco bar fits like a charm the ones they sell now do not.
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Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 11th, 2012, 2:12 pm
by RobMinhas
Got any more info on that car Josh? I bought my BPT MX3 from a fellow named James, in Calgary, and those are the same rims that were on it when I bought mine.
Re: Strut bar design
Posted: December 11th, 2012, 3:41 pm
by Josh
Yeah, sorry James is from Alberta he goes by wyldside he was the MX-West President for a long time. This car is probably one of the most complete GS's you will ever see. It used to be owned by Taras in Victoria and James bought it a few years back. KLZE with DE retainers on and on and on. full suspension and paint, interior has been completely re upholstered. it is very mint.