Please close thread, info moved to my worklog.

V6 Technical/Performance Discussions
mikeinaus
Regular Member
Posts: 1751
Joined: November 2nd, 2009, 3:03 am
antispam: No
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by mikeinaus »

Inodoro Pereyra wrote:Check the pulleys. Make sure the ribs are not deformed, or cracked/missing sections. Also, make sure they're properly aligned. If everything is ok, just get a high quality replacement (Dayco or Gatorgrip are the best I know), and keep the receipt. IIRC, Dayco has a 3 year warranty.

i agree, its very unlikely for a belt to fail after that short of a time without just cause. even a cheap no name belt should last longer then that.
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

It's a Napa belt, IIRC they're made by Gates.

Image
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
mikeinaus
Regular Member
Posts: 1751
Joined: November 2nd, 2009, 3:03 am
antispam: No
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by mikeinaus »

:shock: .more then likely a bad bearing on one of your pullies, or some jagged metal on one. thats not normal wear... is it possible your ac has seized?
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

Definitely not normal wear, the belt was perfect when I checked tension on them all last week. :shrug:

It's times like this that I wish we had more room in the engine bay. I'm going to work on it tomorrow, after class gets out, I couldn't bring myself to tear into it while it's raining. My mood is just crappy when it comes to cars right now. :(
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
User avatar
Inodoro Pereyra
Senior Member
Posts: 2067
Joined: March 11th, 2009, 3:44 pm
Location: Back in Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by Inodoro Pereyra »

mikeinaus wrote::shock: .more then likely a bad bearing on one of your pullies,
Yep, forgot that one. The bearings on the tensioners have a nasty tendency to break, which misaligns the tensioner. Check it out too.

And don't worry about the lack of room. Replacing the belts is surprisingly easy, considering...
U28sIG5vdyB5b3UgYWxzbyBrbm93IGJhc2UgNjQuLi5odWg/DQpTSE9XIE9GRiEhIQ==

"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."

Diogenes of Sinope.
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

I've replaced them before, it's feeling around in the dark for sharp edges that is a PITA. I'm not looking forward to it. :lol:

I'll check it all, tomorrow. :D
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
User avatar
Mooneggs
Forum Moderator
Posts: 6128
Joined: August 10th, 2005, 10:08 pm
antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
Location: Hillsboro, OR
Contact:

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by Mooneggs »

As the others have mentioned it could be your tensioner pulley or the A/C compressor pulley has seized... Or if something came loose and interfered with the belt rotation...
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

I was worried it had something to do with the clunking and bouncing whenever I go over any bumps. I'll have that dealt with soon, but it's definitely been hard on the car.
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
mikeinaus
Regular Member
Posts: 1751
Joined: November 2nd, 2009, 3:03 am
antispam: No
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by mikeinaus »

lol clunking and bouncing is never good.

our engine bays really arnt that bad. i was surprised how much room there is to work on that side of the engine bay while doing the timing belt. dont get me wrong, there are easier cars but the honda accord i was working on recently had barely enough clearance to fit a ratchet between the engine and the side of the car. it was also almost impossible to fit the timing cover on the engine. i was expecting a much more difficult time then im experiencing with the mx.

replacing that belt/inspecting everything shouldnt take you more then 30min if your direct and to the point. an hour if you take your time with a beer.
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

I didn't go into detail on that :lol: I meant bouncing whenever I go over a bump, as my front struts are blown. I'm impatiently waiting for my GR2s to drop onto my porch! :lol:

For an import, they're alright. :P The last 2 cars I worked on, other than an MX3 were an '01 Mountaineer and a '93 Suburban. Needless to say, I was spoiled when it came to elbow room. :lol:
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
User avatar
Daninski
Supporting Member
Posts: 7055
Joined: June 18th, 2007, 10:51 am
Location: Trenton ON.

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by Daninski »

Blake, this is all I have to say to you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ2HcRl4wSk. So doooeeeet. :D
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
Feedback viewtopic.php?f=37&t=66348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
7477th member.

I know you believe that you understand what you think I said but I'm sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
davmac
Regular Member
Posts: 551
Joined: January 15th, 2008, 6:45 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by davmac »

Good luck with this. I'll pray for easy cheap fix.
There is a reason the belt shredded so check into it before throwing a new belt on. Either one of the pulleys has seized or the harmonic balancer has become undone. So if nothing is obviously seized then inspect the crank pulley to see if the outer ring has come loose from the center portion.
Image
Proud owner of a Faded Red 92 MX-3 GS
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

Thanks for that Dan, it's snowing right now btw. 8) I'm still going to do it. I waited yesterday because of Rain, and today it snowed; if I skip today, it'll be golfball sized hail tomorrow. :lol:

Thank you davmac, I appreciate it. :)
Definitely, I'm inspecting it all before I even go to pick up the new belt. Hoping that the time it takes will allow the snow/sleet to die down a bit.
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
User avatar
MrMazda92
Supporting Member
Posts: 5203
Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
antispam: No
Location: Midwest

Re: Crap... Not good, not good at all!

Post by MrMazda92 »

davmac wrote:Either one of the pulleys has seized or the harmonic balancer has become undone. So if nothing is obviously seized then inspect the crank pulley to see if the outer ring has come loose from the center portion.
I checked all of the pulleys, and the tensioner. They're all free spinning, with no more resistance than normal. The A/C compressor pulley was pretty grimey, but not enough that it should throw the belt.

The outer ring of the crank pulley turns independently of the pulley itself... Am I to assume that this is my problem? There were no burrs/stress points anywhere else. With fairly light pressure, I can wiggle the outer ring on and off the pulley. I haven't removed it, but is that movement normal?
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T - Stroker (Fully Counterweighted), Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear cradle, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MS/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
User avatar
Beccabob593
Regular Member
Posts: 94
Joined: July 17th, 2011, 8:21 pm
antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
Location: Meridian Mississippi

Re: *Update* Shredded belt

Post by Beccabob593 »

This makes me even more paranoid about my pulleys.
Image
Post Reply

Return to “V6 Technical/Performance”