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Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 1:59 am
by _-Night-Shade-_
DeadMaker wrote:You might check the air bubbles in the radiator..It is a reason that the fun can not work
Before a fed days i changed the waters.When i put the new water the fun wasn't working..It was the air the reason that the fun couldn't work.To put out the air you must do this
Open the radiator cup and start rising the rpm engine from the throttle.Do the rising again and again.you will see air bubbles coming out.Repeat it until the fun starts working.
If it doesn't work empty the water and start your engine.As you filling the radiator with water you will push up the rpm in the same time.Do this until the radiator is full.
Don't listen to him. No offense.

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 6:15 am
by DeadMaker
_-Night-Shade-_ wrote:
DeadMaker wrote:You might check the air bubbles in the radiator..It is a reason that the fun can not work
Before a fed days i changed the waters.When i put the new water the fun wasn't working..It was the air the reason that the fun couldn't work.To put out the air you must do this
Open the radiator cup and start rising the rpm engine from the throttle.Do the rising again and again.you will see air bubbles coming out.Repeat it until the fun starts working.
If it doesn't work empty the water and start your engine.As you filling the radiator with water you will push up the rpm in the same time.Do this until the radiator is full.
Don't listen to him. No offense.
Why do you say that???

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 9:17 am
by Ryan
because
#1 you don't put water in a motor
#2 if the fun doesn't work, you probably need a new girl.
#3 its a terrible idea to run the motor at all without coolant.
#4 you should be squeezing the lower rad hose with the cap open to move the bubble, adding coolant as needed.

and its not a bubble. It would overheat all the time with a bubble.

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 11:24 am
by DeadMaker
Ryan wrote:because
#1 you don't put water in a motor
#2 if the fun doesn't work, you probably need a new girl.
#3 its a terrible idea to run the motor at all without coolant.
#4 you should be squeezing the lower rad hose with the cap open to move the bubble, adding coolant as needed.

and its not a bubble. It would overheat all the time with a bubble.

#1 you don't put water in a motor

I don't know exactly is called in english the type of water which is used in radiator that's why i used the phrase water

#4 you should be squeezing the lower rad hose with the cap open to move the bubble, adding coolant as needed.

This is not the best idea to get out the air and for sure the manual doesn't write this.

The manual says that you must have the engine on and in the same time to fill the radiator with coolant while you push up the rpm from the throttle.In this way there will be no air in the radiator and the coolant will make circuit and the fun will work.If the air is the problem.
This is what exactly what the manual says for the 323f BG.It is not my fantasy, and I don't think there is any difference with mx3.
I had a problem with air when i changed the coolant and the fun didn't work.I did exactly what the manual says and now everything is works!!No rising temrature.

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 1:41 pm
by _-Night-Shade-_
Ryan wrote:because
#1 you don't put water in a motor
#2 if the fun doesn't work, you probably need a new girl.
#3 its a terrible idea to run the motor at all without coolant.
#4 you should be squeezing the lower rad hose with the cap open to move the bubble, adding coolant as needed.

and its not a bubble. It would overheat all the time with a bubble.
Quoting for epicness :lol:

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 1:43 pm
by _-Night-Shade-_
Okay but to be serious, if you actually read his posts you'll see that the issue isn't air in the cooling system, it's his rad fan not wanting to turn on at all. He even did the diagnostic TPS test and it still didn't come on.

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 27th, 2010, 4:05 pm
by Ryan
for giggles, the Mazda coolant replacement guide http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... E1-005.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that and the next page. The squeezing lower rad hose is a backyard mechanic trick. Its worked good for me.



http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... E1-012.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

diagram of rad fan circuitry.

Later in those pages is the diagnostics for all the parts.

Oh, and I apologize for mocking the non-anglophone. Isn't it sad when sometimes you can't tell between someone who can't speak the language because its not their mother tongue, and someone who still can't speak it and it is?

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 28th, 2010, 10:43 am
by DeadMaker
Ryan wrote:for giggles, the Mazda coolant replacement guide http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... E1-005.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that and the next page. The squeezing lower rad hose is a backyard mechanic trick. Its worked good for me.



http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... E1-012.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

diagram of rad fan circuitry.

Later in those pages is the diagnostics for all the parts.

Oh, and I apologize for mocking the non-anglophone. Isn't it sad when sometimes you can't tell between someone who can't speak the language because its not their mother tongue, and someone who still can't speak it and it is?
Yes it is..Especially for the person who has this language mother tongue..A btw this isn't my mother tongue

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 29th, 2010, 2:45 pm
by JPv6
Ok sounds like time to test the fan directly. Should be fun, it's in a cramped space. Thanks guys!



Question about jumping TEN and GND, it says in the manual to do this and then open the throttle slightly THEN turn the ignition switch on. I've been turning the ignition on first then opening the throttle, should that matter? I'd need a friend to help with this if I've been doing it wrong.

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: May 30th, 2010, 11:30 am
by mazdags94
It shouldn't matter. The fan will only turn on after the car is in the ON position and after you move the TB to a certain point (triggers continuity in the TPS).

Re: GS overheats but only at idle

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 12:49 pm
by JPv6
Still haven't had time to test the fan directly, but have not had any overheating problems. Two questions though. Since I have owned the car, when it reaches operating temperature, the needle is slightly above halfway, is that because the fan isn't working? Also, I seem to have more power when the engine is cold, is this normal?