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onlytrueromeo wrote:Of course theyre not better than Pauter, but they're a low cost alternative. Theyre a different size than regular KL rods, so make sure they'll mate w/ whatever pistons you go with.

yea the size im aware of maybe ill wait for nd4spdse to tell me how the millenias are holding up and i just purchase the valve retainers etc in the mean time. also get those colt cams.

Lol, ya, they're holding up well in the box that they're sitting in.

Stock rods hold like 5-7psi, the S's should be more than that.

Nd4SpdSe wrote:Lol, ya, they're holding up well in the box that they're sitting in.

Stock rods hold like 5-7psi, the S's should be more than that.

lol well if they are sittin in that box they should be ready to be shipped to me

Haha, no, that's an expensive box...it has alot of my rebuild parts in it. I'm just missing the actual valves and the pistons before I get started on it...

Im pretty much using the combo of babybluemx3 wisco pistons and chev/ford rods
peterson single stage external oil pump ( if your reving past 8K you need it )

DE retainers are pretty much standing up the rigors along with stock valves though
I have Duo valve springs and solid HLA's

The bump sticks have been the more interesting part, my most visious cam is 245 duration
@0.050" lift in fact after chasing figures around the stock KLZE cams on different centers
would do just as well starting out, chasing that last whp on the dyno big cams come to play
though the lobe to lobe centers have remained small.

Colt cams are good, I like the idea of phasing the valves to promote swirl in the chamber

Leo323 setup only starts to make hp @ 6000 climbing through to 10,000 for max hp.
Im making more at 2000rpm less, infact Id love to make peak hp a lot lower.

This only as good as the aftermarket ECU and custom mainifold as the stock one is a
15kg lump of ali that begs to be thrown away.

kiwimx3 wrote:Colt cams are good, I like the idea of phasing the valves to promote swirl in the chamber

Yep, but as far as I know, they're untested on a KL.

Nd4SpdSe wrote:

kiwimx3 wrote:Colt cams are good, I like the idea of phasing the valves to promote swirl in the chamber

Yep, but as far as I know, they're untested on a KL.

well that means i gotta get them then! oh and is our block aluminum?

kast2L wrote:

Nd4SpdSe wrote:

kiwimx3 wrote:Colt cams are good, I like the idea of phasing the valves to promote swirl in the chamber

Yep, but as far as I know, they're untested on a KL.

well that means i gotta get them then! oh and is our block aluminum?

I tried to get them, but he wants a before and after comparison on a modified motor, dyno and track tested. Oh, and yes it is.

whoa whoa what? Who wants a before and after comparison on them? The guys we buy the cams from?

Yes, to make sure that they work on a ZE as anticipated. (This is for the tri-flow stuff, not regular colt street grind)

Tri-flow's could have more gain - and if someone were to work w/ them doing dyno's they might help the cost of the cams - not entirely sure though.

onlytrueromeo wrote:Yes, to make sure that they work on a ZE as anticipated. (This is for the tri-flow stuff, not regular colt street grind)

Tri-flow's could have more gain - and if someone were to work w/ them doing dyno's they might help the cost of the cams - not entirely sure though.

so if we let them dyno our motors they would lower the cost of the cams?

No no, what I believe is that they aren't selling KLZE Tri-flow cams until they are dyno tested on someone's car, and if you were the one to volunteer to do this for them, they would cut a break for you specifically.

AFAIK, NO ONE, has tri flow cams on their klze/de.

onlytrueromeo wrote:No no, what I believe is that they aren't selling KLZE Tri-flow cams until they are dyno tested on someone's car, and if you were the one to volunteer to do this for them, they would cut a break for you specifically.

AFAIK, NO ONE, has tri flow cams on their klze/de.

Well, maybe maybe not on the discount...but to say they are more expensive because of the process involved to make them.

Wouldnt it be funny if the valves hit the pistons or some other wierd disasterous situation occured ? Not

with 11.5:1 pistons they would of your timing is off