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Your mechanic is full of s---. Feeding you a line.

Time to get a new mechanic.
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Ryan wrote:Your mechanic is full of s---. Feeding you a line.

Time to get a new mechanic.
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ok after your guys opinions and doing extensive research on the subject i have come to the conclusion to put on a new timing belt and go from there...i just hope its not a waste of money

P.S. im getting the car taken to another shop on monday to get the belt put on
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It's very likely that the mechanic looked at it, realized the timing belt was gone and assumed that the valves would have been bent.

Either way it tells me at the very least he doesn't know what he's doing. I would have asked him how he knows that valve is bent. There is a way to confirm it and if he's any good he will explain it to you. That is a question you should ask of the shop you take it to next. i.e."The last guy said that the valves were bent. Can you confirm that for me?" and get him to show you.

FYI. When the cams are pointing straight up a bent valve won't close all the way. So you have to remove the valve covers and turn the engine over by hand and check each cylinder to be sure all four valves close when the cam lobes are up.
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A compression test doesn't involve removing the valvecovers, and 0 PSI points to a valve issue.

It would also probably run on 4 cylinders... sound like a tractor though.
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If the timing belt is stripped or broken and the cams aren't spinning, several cylinder's valves will be held open causeing zero compression. If the timing belt is stripped or broken and the cams aren't turning you have to either turn the cams by hand to check or remove the heads.
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Re: Another wont start thread

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Any mechanic worth his salt can hear a broken timing belt when cranking.

There are also pretty good bore scopes these days.

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mind you as advanced german cars are the mechanics are garbage and everything is overpriced. Thats why i had to get a second opinion before i swap the motor too early. I wanted to rebuild a DE before i put it into the MX-3
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just to give you guys an update


im glad i came on here because i almost had to swap the whole engine and im not ready yet, thanks to everyone on here but it was just the timing belt and after i got a new one on the engine fired right up thanks everyone for your help i love mx-3.com and most if not all the very knowledgeable members. i just hope one day ill be able to school dudes fresh to the MX-3 scene (if any new ones come) :love2: :love2:
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