funny how u say this on forums and tell me u think its only like 180 in personmx3autozam wrote:. yes the ZE is 200hp but thats at the crank.
Any tips? Im slower than any klze ive seen..
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wtf are you talkinga bout. teh ze is like 195-200hp at the crank. its like 170-180 at the wheels. I've never told you its 180hp at the crank man..jesusfieromx3 wrote:funny how u say this on forums and tell me u think its only like 180 in personmx3autozam wrote:. yes the ZE is 200hp but thats at the crank.
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the answer to all questions on this forum is one word: "search"
well, at least from those who think they've paid their dues here so they can dump this one word answer on people with "lesser senority". i mean, that's fine by me, but at the same time i don't see the big deal about bringing back (what they call) old discussions.
it's just a little annoying, over and over and over and over and over:
Q: how do I -
A: SEARCH
Q: do you think this -
A: SEARCH !
Q: what if i were to -
A: SEARCHHHHHHAAGGGHGHHHHHHHH!!!! DIE NOOOBbbbbb DiiiiE!!!!!!!!!
but then i guess it's just as annoying to hear people asking questions (or discussing old things) that you already are master mazder at ...
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well, at least from those who think they've paid their dues here so they can dump this one word answer on people with "lesser senority". i mean, that's fine by me, but at the same time i don't see the big deal about bringing back (what they call) old discussions.
it's just a little annoying, over and over and over and over and over:
Q: how do I -
A: SEARCH
Q: do you think this -
A: SEARCH !
Q: what if i were to -
A: SEARCHHHHHHAAGGGHGHHHHHHHH!!!! DIE NOOOBbbbbb DiiiiE!!!!!!!!!
but then i guess it's just as annoying to hear people asking questions (or discussing old things) that you already are master mazder at ...
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....you just took the words out of my keyboard. I think i said this once already to illapeno or somebody. Your asking about things because your simply getting in alittle to deap. Take a moment, and read alittle. The things you learn when you just sit back and read, and SEARCH and read, are much greater than if you just ask ask ask ask ask.Mnemonic wrote:
PLEASE START SEARCHING AND DOING RESEARCH!
Seriously guys this has been listed over and over and over and over and over and over. I don’t see why it’s hard for people to find this information. And it’s the SAME PEOPLE b]*couhg* illapino[/b] every single time. It's getting ridicules. Perhaps we should start deleting people’s threads and post since they since to NOT want to do simple searches and look OBVIOUS information up.
Honest to god. These are simple things. Searching is easy as long as you hit "search for all terms". Just DO IT. it makes you look like an idiot if you make a dumb comment anyway, so save yourself some trouble.
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Hec,
Go and get a dyno done, and stop procrastinating about it cause im
sick of reading about it.
Then and only then will we the forum public know what your motor
is producing.
As for the drag racing, its not about spending money in one area
its about the overall package.
Engine
Gearbox ratios / LSD
Tires
Suspension Spring rates and Damper rates.
Driver ability is the last part of the package.
Go and get a dyno done, and stop procrastinating about it cause im
sick of reading about it.
Then and only then will we the forum public know what your motor
is producing.
As for the drag racing, its not about spending money in one area
its about the overall package.
Engine
Gearbox ratios / LSD
Tires
Suspension Spring rates and Damper rates.
Driver ability is the last part of the package.
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search function
All you guys talk about is the search function. How are we to get newbies to the forum if you keep putting them off. Maybe they don't know any better. You probably weren't that great at the start either. Lead them to the correct search index, maybe then you'll get the response you're looking for from them. Give them a break , because this bickering is just going to send them over to honda or something worse. Who knows; maybe one of them will be the one to design the next great thing for us!
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Re: search function
but is Hec a newbie?drkwing3 wrote:All you guys talk about is the search function. How are we to get newbies to the forum if you keep putting them off. Maybe they don't know any better. You probably weren't that great at the start either. Lead them to the correct search index, maybe then you'll get the response you're looking for from them. Give them a break , because this bickering is just going to send them over to honda or something worse. Who knows; maybe one of them will be the one to design the next great thing for us!
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when a company comes out with a new car and they give the horse power specs its generally not WHP lol cuz that would mean those new honda civics have 190 WHP lol and that would be a bloody fast civic for stock but they are slow. they have about 155 at the wheels or so. so dont belive everything you hear. your dyno specs there say you have 171WHP thats pritty good for a ZE with intake and headers keep doing little mods they may not make a diference at the time but in the end they add up.
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-FMI 3"x12"x32" all alluminum and welded, have a 7.5 PSI spring she just creeps on cold nights
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Ok to end thread, I contacted robinator and yes the je5 vaf does a big difference in time.. so yeah that was one thing. Also chi is made for 3 octane or higher. Ill change that.
-hec
MX-3 w/ curved neck millenia klde, boosted @ 5 psi. /bov and wastegate are good!/ nitto drag radial/ gutted interior/ millenia red top injectors, vortech fmu/aem wideband/ all bolts ons/ Car put together 100% by me. Mechanic? who needs a mechanic? ew.. real men work on their own cars!
MX-3 w/ curved neck millenia klde, boosted @ 5 psi. /bov and wastegate are good!/ nitto drag radial/ gutted interior/ millenia red top injectors, vortech fmu/aem wideband/ all bolts ons/ Car put together 100% by me. Mechanic? who needs a mechanic? ew.. real men work on their own cars!
seriously, if you think there is really something wrong with your car, i see no problem in asking. seeing as you arent a noob and arent asking retarded questions, i dont see why everyone is shlting their pants about it.
have you tried an unmodified jdm klze kl36/31 ecu with a working je50 vaf on a dyno for baseline testing? if anything you should go back and try that pair since it is setup that way by oem. the only way you will have a proper comparison is by a completely stock tune compared to your current tune.
try setting the fuel pressure to stock. engines make more power running lean so adding fuel to a stock tune n/a motor probably kills more hp.
check your compression and that should give you an idea of what your motor may be capable of as opposed to a brand new motor with perfect compression putting out 196ps (is ps same a bhp?)
when u try probinator ecu with the recommended vaf, make sure u run the fuel pressure that he also recommends as a starting point. since you are in texas minor adjustments may or may not help.
also, u have a pgt which is significantly heavier than a mx3 which greatly contributes to your 1/4 mile times. even if you can drive, a pgt is slower than a mx3, both driven by the same person.
how come you dyno'd so far from home? san bernardino is like 40 miles from where i live but nowhere close to tx.
have you tried an unmodified jdm klze kl36/31 ecu with a working je50 vaf on a dyno for baseline testing? if anything you should go back and try that pair since it is setup that way by oem. the only way you will have a proper comparison is by a completely stock tune compared to your current tune.
try setting the fuel pressure to stock. engines make more power running lean so adding fuel to a stock tune n/a motor probably kills more hp.
check your compression and that should give you an idea of what your motor may be capable of as opposed to a brand new motor with perfect compression putting out 196ps (is ps same a bhp?)
when u try probinator ecu with the recommended vaf, make sure u run the fuel pressure that he also recommends as a starting point. since you are in texas minor adjustments may or may not help.
also, u have a pgt which is significantly heavier than a mx3 which greatly contributes to your 1/4 mile times. even if you can drive, a pgt is slower than a mx3, both driven by the same person.
how come you dyno'd so far from home? san bernardino is like 40 miles from where i live but nowhere close to tx.
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hgallegos915 wrote:Ok to end thread, I contacted robinator and yes the je5 vaf does a big difference in time.. so yeah that was one thing. Also chi is made for 3 octane or higher. Ill change that.
wait wait wait....
Your running lower than 93 octane in your car!!!!!!!!!
I'm done with this topic.........
10:1 motors are suggested to use 93+ ::shakes head:: it doesnt matter what the ecu is designed for
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I would like to add.. injectors tap LOUD.. yes LOUD.. ill replace them tomorrow. Chaging to higher octane ASAP .. see theres something i didnt know LOL
-hec
MX-3 w/ curved neck millenia klde, boosted @ 5 psi. /bov and wastegate are good!/ nitto drag radial/ gutted interior/ millenia red top injectors, vortech fmu/aem wideband/ all bolts ons/ Car put together 100% by me. Mechanic? who needs a mechanic? ew.. real men work on their own cars!
MX-3 w/ curved neck millenia klde, boosted @ 5 psi. /bov and wastegate are good!/ nitto drag radial/ gutted interior/ millenia red top injectors, vortech fmu/aem wideband/ all bolts ons/ Car put together 100% by me. Mechanic? who needs a mechanic? ew.. real men work on their own cars!