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 ganue (daughter and sons) 1993 MX-3 GS-SE 
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Uh oh....we did it agian...we bought another SE....
Engine is dead - previous owner neglected to put oil in. I guess it needs another engine.....whatever shall we do???? :shrug:

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Anyone know why a 1993 MX-3 GS-SE has "LX" badges on the fenders?

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May 14 2009, 11:08 PM
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Did you by chance get that new SE off of craigslist? If so....I wanted it! haha. but boss man with trailer said no more broken mx's from Michigan, lol.

Nice to see you have 2 SE's though! 8)
As for the LX thing...I'ma guess stupidity.

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May 14 2009, 11:54 PM
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maybe its not the original fender?, that reminds me i am due for an oil change myself

m 93 4 cilinder came with power windows, powerlocks, auto seatbelt, ac. power steering(if that counts), i would have loveed a sunroof its the main thing i wish it had had but i love it regardless OH and leather seats would have een pretty kool as well...


May 15 2009, 12:03 AM
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That LX badge looks like a badge off a older MX6 or 626.

Definitely not a mx3 badge


May 15 2009, 12:43 AM
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thats definately a protege LX badge (90-94) How it got there I do not know!

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May 15 2009, 10:46 AM
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My SE has the power group and sunroof with heated seats but no A/C...figure that out!!!

I did find out the other day that it is wired for A/C. At least there is a harness for the A/C button in the vent.

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May 15 2009, 12:16 PM
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i wonder wh would they leave A/C out? i mean its an Special Edition....suppossed to have all u need/want .....how's AC not basic priority?.....tho i have to admit.....i dont really use my ac, but if its raining outside not having AC is such a pain, so yeah just when it rains i find myself using it


May 15 2009, 12:49 PM
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Two points to the Protege guess. And, yes, this was on Craigslist a little while ago...

Lookee here:

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Now I have two issues:

1) Gotta take those damned labels off
2) My 17 yr old was right

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1993 GS SE - "slow" (Stock) - SOLD
1993 GS SE - "fast" (Curved neck KLZE, OBX headers, custom 2.5" exhaust, KL36 ECU, Exedy Probe GT clutch, KL36 LSD - the real one, Lantis Type R lefthand halfshaft - unfortunately worth mentioning)- SOLD

1993 GS SE - acquired 4/28/2013, SOLD February 28, 2015

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May 15 2009, 11:32 PM
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My SE has black heated leather seats, cruise, all pwr options, sunroof, MTX, no a/c.

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May 18 2009, 5:02 PM
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OK - Status of SE #2:

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Exhaust off, interiror being purged of previous owners bad smoking habit (cleaned up great now just needs a pound of baking soda or something), underside cleaned up, falsified LX badges gone, old engine and trans almost ready for removal.

Summer Plan:

1) JDM Eunos 800 (I assume) KLZE curved neck (of course) Arrived 3 June 2009
2) MX-3 flywheel from existing engine Done
3) MX-6 or Probe GT clutch (need ideas if this is NOT the way to go) Done
4) JDM MS-8 (I assume) LSD Trans (plus modified halfshafts if needed) Done (splines are the same, carryover halfshafts)
5) Brake replacement as needed Done
6) Struts?? Done (sort of)
7) Tires Done
8) Oh - KL-36 ECU - ok its for an auto....we'll see if the list is right that its ok for a manual Done
9) Stick with the JE50 VAF or change. Guys....guys???......GUYS!!!!?? Done

On point 4, there is a controversy on the list. Seems that there are some who think the LSD won't accept stock MX-3 halfshaft as is and some that say its a plug-in. I'll let you know what I find in a couple weeks.

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Update June 3, 2009:
Controversy over - I got the trans and the splines are the same as all MX-3s...no VIN numbers on trans or engine so I cant trace the origin of the trans...I am assuming it is a from JDM MX-6...for those skeptics, I verified the LSD - both outputs turn the same direction!!!
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Comments please?????

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1993 GS SE - "slow" (Stock) - SOLD
1993 GS SE - "fast" (Curved neck KLZE, OBX headers, custom 2.5" exhaust, KL36 ECU, Exedy Probe GT clutch, KL36 LSD - the real one, Lantis Type R lefthand halfshaft - unfortunately worth mentioning)- SOLD

1993 GS SE - acquired 4/28/2013, SOLD February 28, 2015

1985 RX-7 GSL-SE - SOLD
2003 VW GTI 1.8T
2009 Mazda5 Grand Touring


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May 19 2009, 11:00 PM
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acexl wrote:
i wonder wh would they leave A/C out? i mean its an Special Edition....suppossed to have all u need/want .....how's AC not basic priority?.....tho i have to admit.....i dont really use my ac, but if its raining outside not having AC is such a pain, so yeah just when it rains i find myself using it


To order a SE without AC was possible when the car was new. I drove a Laguna Blue SE here in BC a few years back and it didnt have A/C either. I questioned the owner about this and he said that when he bought it off the original owner years back he asked the same thing. That original owner said that he had the car ordered with NO a/c as he didn't think it was necessary for the mild climate in the Vancouver region.

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MX-6 or Probe GT clutch (need ideas if this is NOT the way to go)


Thats what you want yes, to save money get a exedy clutch kit from eBay for a probe. Got one in my car, works good, light pedal an is cheap.

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Oh - KL-36 ECU - ok its for an auto....we'll see if the list is right that its ok for a manual


There are now arguments on PT that the 36 is actually the manual tranny ECU. Either way, it will work no problem Or you can save a few bucks and get your k8 chipped to proper specs.. email probegtze @ hotmail.com for more information.

ganue wrote:
Stick with the JE50 VAF or change. Guys....guys???......GUYS!!!!??


Stick with JE50 with chipped ecu or with kl31/36.


May 19 2009, 11:19 PM
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Thanks for the replies - that narrows down a few things - I just requested the Exedy clutch from a fellow member so nice timing..!!!

Got the KL36 ECU so I'm ready to go....there's just one thing....

I want to GIVE AWAY -FREE- the existing stock K8, 5 speed, and computer.

[UPDATE June 29, 2009 - all the transplant spares are gone!!! Gone to a new home where they can be used by a knowledgeable fellow member!!!]

I can't post on the FS forum yet so I'll do it here.

Here's everything I know:

1) Engine and trans will be out of the car in the next 2-3 weeks (please look at my posting date here...)
2) Engine did start and run BUT definitely sounds like the previous owner lunged a rod due to lack of oil
3) Car was flatbedded to my house - never have shifted the trans but static it seems ok through all gears. The only hint I have is that only about a cup of thick black lube came out when we drained it....
4) I have to pull the flywheel off the existing engine but all else is someone's for the taking.
5) Oil pan and maybe a few other things will be removed (but included) just for the curiosity satisfaction - I'll take pictures if there is anything to be seen
6) Disty and EGR may be pulled as well as any other bits to help revive the car when the ZE is in
7) LOCAL PICK UP ONLY!!!!! Did I mention local pick up only?
8) 134K miles on the clock
9) For clarity - ITS ALL FREE!!!
10) No interest in parting anything out - junkyard or your yard...

I think that's it....oh - car is in beautiful Waterford, MI - about 4 hours from Toronto...for my geographic neighbors...

Ask questions....

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1993 GS SE - "fast" (Curved neck KLZE, OBX headers, custom 2.5" exhaust, KL36 ECU, Exedy Probe GT clutch, KL36 LSD - the real one, Lantis Type R lefthand halfshaft - unfortunately worth mentioning)- SOLD

1993 GS SE - acquired 4/28/2013, SOLD February 28, 2015

1985 RX-7 GSL-SE - SOLD
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May 19 2009, 11:59 PM
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hmmm...mx3 lx??? is that anything like a mustang gtr, or an SER SPEC V Honda??? LOL. Just incorrect badging. But at least they kept it in the mazda family

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May 20 2009, 12:05 AM
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OK - Engine's out as of today. The boys took it out with the trans.

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And what remains is a big ZE hole......:

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And its been cleaned up since the picture was taken....

Trans was separated, K8 flywheel removed and waiting for the 2.5L.....

Again - engine and trans are available FREE!!!

We pulled the oil pan and front valve cover and found nothing out of the ordinary. The engine will run, but please know there is a notable CLUNK CLUNK and the previous owner told us he "ran out of oil". The lower end seems to be fine - rods, pistons all seem to be in place and smooth, although a few oil pan bolts broke in the process of removal....

Front cams are fine and all valve "buckets" look ok....must be something in the rear head....

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1993 GS SE - "slow" (Stock) - SOLD
1993 GS SE - "fast" (Curved neck KLZE, OBX headers, custom 2.5" exhaust, KL36 ECU, Exedy Probe GT clutch, KL36 LSD - the real one, Lantis Type R lefthand halfshaft - unfortunately worth mentioning)- SOLD

1993 GS SE - acquired 4/28/2013, SOLD February 28, 2015

1985 RX-7 GSL-SE - SOLD
2003 VW GTI 1.8T
2009 Mazda5 Grand Touring


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May 23 2009, 10:05 PM
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Replace the factory "Quick Couplers" on the coolant lines at the firewall where they enter the heater core. They are a 15 year old plastic ticking time bomb.

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94' GS, black on black, now in several small pieces...and one large crushed piece.
2007 Mazda3 GT Sport --- super fun
2004 Honda RC51 --- Lost forever to some theavin' bastard
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